[Cc-hk] discovered a suspected case of a CC-licensed work on Wikipedia being trotted by local Citibank Ads
Zunix Ling
zunix.ling at gmail.com
Tue Dec 9 23:03:56 EST 2008
Yea, Software Freedom Law Center is quite famous with lot of heavy weigh
person to hold it.I also remember what has been done by public patent
that open source our fat32 patient registration. There are helpful.
Regards,
zunix
Haggen So Ìáµ½:
> Zunix,
>
> Yes, The short version of the disclaimer in CCHK licences stated:
>
> Creative Commons is not a law firm and does not provide legal
> services. Distributing of, displaying of, or linking to this Commons
> Deed does not create an attorney-client relationship.
>
> Creative Commons²»ÊÇ·¨ÂÉÊÂÕËù£¬Ò಻Ìṩ·¨ÂÉ·þÕ¡£·Ö°l¡¢Õ¹Ê¾»òßB½Yµ½ÊÚ
> àËÕÂK²»®aÉúÂɺͿÍôµÄêPS¡£
>
> So technically we don't really have any responsibilities. It is,
> however, possible for us to actively discuss the issue (e.g. put an
> article up in our official site) and recommend legal services if we
> can find some friendly allies.
>
> On the other hand, dual licensing may not be a total bad news. The
> organisation responsible for GFDL is FSF (Free Software Foundation).
> They have recently found the Software Freedom Law Center
> (http://www.softwarefreedom.org/), and this center will give legal
> assistance.
>
> Haggen
>
> P.S. I did receive the same email in the CCHK account, just haven't
> got time to deal with it. Sorry.
>
> 2008/12/10 Zunix Ling <zunix.ling at gmail.com <mailto:zunix.ling at gmail.com>>
>
> Does not want to comment too much on license matter, but as Charles
> point out. And I have to say, the dual-licensing in this case seem
> complicated by itself to enforce due to costing and legal foundation.
> There are many issues. I think CCHK organization just like a
> certification or standard holder. Administration and enforcement
> is not
> under it's scope. am I right?
>
> Regards,
>
> zunix
>
> Charles Mok Ìáµ½:
> > I think we should be very careful about the claim. CCHK being
> not even
> > an organization may not be in the right position to do much beyond
> > facilitating the license. It should be up to the claimant to
> take his
> > own action. At this stage, I do not see that CCHK should take side.
> > Plus, the license was is used is not CCHK license but another
> version.
> >
> > Others pls comment....
> >
> > 2008/12/10 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu at gmail.com
> <mailto:jacklqiu at gmail.com> <mailto:jacklqiu at gmail.com
> <mailto:jacklqiu at gmail.com>>>
> >
> > This can probably be a good opportunity for public education. I
> > will, and think all CCHK members should, give this Xavier all our
> > support. That is, of course, if there is enough evidence to
> > establish the case and we have good confidence that we can nail
> > down City Bank.
> >
> > Can some members of our legal team give some advice? I'd also like
> > to hear from Rebecca, Charles, Pindar and everyone.
> >
> > jack
> >
> > 2008/12/9 Jerry~Yuyu <jerry.tschan.yu <http://jerry.tschan.yu>
> > <http://jerry.tschan.yu>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>
> <http://gmail.com>>
> >
> > Halo all
> >
> > We found the message that ask for our help
> > in our spam folder, unfortunately
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: *Xavier Fung* <xavier114fch at gmail.com
> <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com>>>
> > Date: 2008/12/8
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> > To: wikimedia.hong.kong at gmail.com
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> > <mailto:wikimedia.hong.kong at gmail.com
> <mailto:wikimedia.hong.kong at gmail.com>>
> >
> >
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> > ÙFþÓûºÍ±¾È˽j£¬ÕÒÔëà]£¨xavier114fch at gmail.com
> <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com>
> > <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com <mailto:
> xavier114fch at gmail.com>>£©¡¢¾S»ùÓÃôí£¨User:
> > Xavier114fch£©»òëÔ£¨6028 9641£¬ÍíÁùráᣩ֪ͨ¡£
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> >
> > Xavier Fung
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Wikimedia Hong Kong
> > the local chapter of Wikimedia in HKSAR
> > http://wikimediahk.org <http://wikimediahk.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
> > Jerry~ÓêÓê
> > User:Yuyu
> > http://jeromyu.info
> > MSN: jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>
> <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>>
> >
> > Deputy President
> > Wikimedia Hong Kong
> > http://www.wikimediahk.org
> >
> > Tel: +852 9279 1601
> > Laudamus quae laudentur
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 23:19, Charles Mok
> > <charlespmok at gmail.com <mailto:charlespmok at gmail.com>
> <mailto:charlespmok at gmail.com <mailto:charlespmok at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Somehow I cannot go to the link below....very slow...
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Jerry~Yuyu
> > <jerry.tschan.yu <http://jerry.tschan.yu>
> <http://jerry.tschan.yu>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>
> > <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Halo all
> >
> > As my fellow Chapter broad member discovered
> >
> > a Local Chinese wikipedian had stated on his user
> > page, claiming that his CC-licensed MTR maps being
> > trotted by Citibank's Advertisements
> >
> > More details can be found on this page on zh.wikipedia
> >
> >
> http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xavier114fch/%E4%BB%A5CC%E6%A2%9D%E6%AC%BE%E7%99%BC%E4%BD%88%E7%9A%84%E8%B7%AF%E7%B7%9A%E5%9C%96%E8%A2%AB%E5%BB%A3%E5%91%8A%E6%8C%AA%E7%94%A8
> >
> > On the page, the user stated that he had sent e-mails
> > to WMHK & CCHK. We had not receive such e-mail at the
> > moment, and I wonder if his mail had reached CCHK.
> >
> > As the user is not a registered member of our chapter,
> > so most of our broad member intend to handle this
> > matter personally at this moment, unless this user
> > identify himself via register as a chapter member.
> >
> > I wonder if any of you had any idea to help him in
> > this stage
> >
> > Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
> > Jerry~ÓêÓê
> > User:Yuyu
> > http://jeromyu.info
> > MSN: jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>
> <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>>
> >
> > Deputy President
> > Wikimedia Hong Kong
> > http://www.wikimediahk.org
> >
> > Tel: +852 9279 1601
> > Laudamus quae laudentur
> >
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