[Cc-hk] discovered a suspected case of a CC-licensed work on Wikipedia being trotted by local Citibank Ads

Haggen So haggenso at gmail.com
Tue Dec 9 21:11:30 EST 2008


Zunix,

Yes, The short version of the disclaimer in CCHK licences stated:

Creative Commons is not a law firm and does not provide legal services.
Distributing of, displaying of, or linking to this Commons Deed does not
create an attorney-client relationship.

Creative Commons²»ÊÇ·¨ÂÉÊ„ÕËù£¬Ò಻Ìṩ·¨ÂÉ·þ„Õ¡£·Ö°l¡¢Õ¹Ê¾»òßB½Yµ½ÊÚ™à˜ËՁK²»®aÉúÂÉŽŸºÍ¿Í‘ôµÄêP‚S¡£

So technically we don't really have any responsibilities.  It is, however,
possible for us to actively discuss the issue (e.g. put an article up in our
official site) and recommend legal services if we can find some friendly
allies.

On the other hand, dual licensing may not be a total bad news. The
organisation responsible for GFDL is FSF (Free Software Foundation). They
have recently found the Software Freedom Law Center (
http://www.softwarefreedom.org/), and this center will give legal
assistance.

Haggen

P.S. I did receive the same email in the CCHK account, just haven't got time
to deal with it.  Sorry.

2008/12/10 Zunix Ling <zunix.ling at gmail.com>

> Does not want to comment too much on license matter, but as Charles
> point out. And I have to say, the dual-licensing in this case seem
> complicated by itself to enforce due to costing and legal foundation.
> There are many issues. I think CCHK organization just like a
> certification or standard holder. Administration and enforcement is not
> under it's scope. am I right?
>
> Regards,
>
> zunix
>
> Charles Mok Ìáµ½:
> > I think we should be very careful about the claim. CCHK being not even
> > an organization may not be in the right position to do much beyond
> > facilitating the license. It should be up to the claimant to take his
> > own action. At this stage, I do not see that CCHK should take side.
> > Plus, the license was is used is not CCHK license but another version.
> >
> > Others pls comment....
> >
> > 2008/12/10 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu at gmail.com <mailto:jacklqiu at gmail.com>>
> >
> >     This can probably be a good opportunity for public education. I
> >     will, and think all CCHK members should, give this Xavier all our
> >     support. That is, of course, if there is enough evidence to
> >     establish the case and we have good confidence that we can nail
> >     down City Bank.
> >
> >     Can some members of our legal team give some advice? I'd also like
> >     to hear from Rebecca, Charles, Pindar and everyone.
> >
> >     jack
> >
> >     2008/12/9 Jerry~Yuyu <jerry.tschan.yu
> >     <http://jerry.tschan.yu>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>>
> >
> >         Halo all
> >
> >         We found the message that ask for our help
> >         in our spam folder, unfortunately
> >
> >         ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >         From: *Xavier Fung* <xavier114fch at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com>>
> >         Date: 2008/12/8
> >         Subject: ÓÐêPˆDƬÇÖ™àÖ®…fÖú
> >         To: wikimedia.hong.kong at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:wikimedia.hong.kong at gmail.com>
> >
> >
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> >
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> >         ÙF•þÓûºÍ±¾ÈË“½j£¬ÕˆÒÔëŠà]£¨xavier114fch at gmail.com
> >         <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com>£©¡¢¾S»ùÓÑôí“£¨User:
> >         Xavier114fch£©»òëŠÔ’£¨6028 9641£¬ÍíÁù•ráᣩ֪ͨ¡£
> >
> >         Ö”×£
> >         ̨°²
> >
> >         Xavier Fung
> >
> >
> >
> >         --
> >         Wikimedia Hong Kong
> >         the local chapter of Wikimedia in HKSAR
> >         http://wikimediahk.org <http://wikimediahk.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> >         Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
> >         Jerry~ÓêÓê
> >         User:Yuyu
> >         http://jeromyu.info
> >         MSN: jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>
> >
> >         Deputy President
> >         Wikimedia Hong Kong
> >         http://www.wikimediahk.org
> >
> >         Tel: +852 9279 1601
> >         Laudamus quae laudentur
> >
> >
> >         On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 23:19, Charles Mok
> >         <charlespmok at gmail.com <mailto:charlespmok at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >             Somehow I cannot go to the link below....very slow...
> >
> >             On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Jerry~Yuyu
> >             <jerry.tschan.yu <http://jerry.tschan.yu>@gmail.com
> >             <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >                 Halo all
> >
> >                 As my fellow Chapter broad member discovered
> >
> >                 a Local Chinese wikipedian had stated on his user
> >                 page, claiming that his CC-licensed MTR maps being
> >                 trotted by Citibank's Advertisements
> >
> >                 More details can be found on this page on zh.wikipedia
> >
> >
> http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xavier114fch/%E4%BB%A5CC%E6%A2%9D%E6%AC%BE%E7%99%BC%E4%BD%88%E7%9A%84%E8%B7%AF%E7%B7%9A%E5%9C%96%E8%A2%AB%E5%BB%A3%E5%91%8A%E6%8C%AA%E7%94%A8
> >
> >                 On the page, the user stated that he had sent e-mails
> >                 to WMHK & CCHK. We had not receive such e-mail at the
> >                 moment, and I wonder if his mail had reached CCHK.
> >
> >                 As the user is not a registered member of our chapter,
> >                 so most of our broad member intend to handle this
> >                 matter personally at this moment, unless this user
> >                 identify himself via register as a chapter member.
> >
> >                 I wonder if any of you had any idea to help him in
> >                 this stage
> >
> >                 Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
> >                 Jerry~ÓêÓê
> >                 User:Yuyu
> >                 http://jeromyu.info
> >                 MSN: jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>
> >
> >                 Deputy President
> >                 Wikimedia Hong Kong
> >                 http://www.wikimediahk.org
> >
> >                 Tel: +852 9279 1601
> >                 Laudamus quae laudentur
> >
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