[Cc-hk] discovered a suspected case of a CC-licensed work on Wikipedia being trotted by local Citibank Ads

Zunix Ling zunix.ling at gmail.com
Tue Dec 9 12:26:59 EST 2008


Does not want to comment too much on license matter, but as Charles
point out. And I have to say, the dual-licensing in this case seem
complicated by itself to enforce due to costing and legal foundation.
There are many issues. I think CCHK organization just like a
certification or standard holder. Administration and enforcement is not
under it's scope. am I right?

Regards,

zunix

Charles Mok Ìáµ½:
> I think we should be very careful about the claim. CCHK being not even
> an organization may not be in the right position to do much beyond
> facilitating the license. It should be up to the claimant to take his
> own action. At this stage, I do not see that CCHK should take side.
> Plus, the license was is used is not CCHK license but another version.
>
> Others pls comment....
>
> 2008/12/10 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu at gmail.com <mailto:jacklqiu at gmail.com>>
>
>     This can probably be a good opportunity for public education. I
>     will, and think all CCHK members should, give this Xavier all our
>     support. That is, of course, if there is enough evidence to
>     establish the case and we have good confidence that we can nail
>     down City Bank.
>
>     Can some members of our legal team give some advice? I'd also like
>     to hear from Rebecca, Charles, Pindar and everyone.
>
>     jack
>
>     2008/12/9 Jerry~Yuyu <jerry.tschan.yu
>     <http://jerry.tschan.yu>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>>
>
>         Halo all
>
>         We found the message that ask for our help
>         in our spam folder, unfortunately
>
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>         From: *Xavier Fung* <xavier114fch at gmail.com
>         <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com>>
>         Date: 2008/12/8
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>         ¡¡ÙF•þÓûºÍ±¾ÈË“½j£¬ÕˆÒÔëŠà]£¨xavier114fch at gmail.com
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>         Xavier Fung
>
>
>
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>         On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 23:19, Charles Mok
>         <charlespmok at gmail.com <mailto:charlespmok at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Somehow I cannot go to the link below....very slow...
>
>             On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Jerry~Yuyu
>             <jerry.tschan.yu <http://jerry.tschan.yu>@gmail.com
>             <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Halo all
>
>                 As my fellow Chapter broad member discovered
>
>                 a Local Chinese wikipedian had stated on his user
>                 page, claiming that his CC-licensed MTR maps being
>                 trotted by Citibank's Advertisements
>
>                 More details can be found on this page on zh.wikipedia
>
>                 http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xavier114fch/%E4%BB%A5CC%E6%A2%9D%E6%AC%BE%E7%99%BC%E4%BD%88%E7%9A%84%E8%B7%AF%E7%B7%9A%E5%9C%96%E8%A2%AB%E5%BB%A3%E5%91%8A%E6%8C%AA%E7%94%A8
>
>                 On the page, the user stated that he had sent e-mails
>                 to WMHK & CCHK. We had not receive such e-mail at the
>                 moment, and I wonder if his mail had reached CCHK.
>
>                 As the user is not a registered member of our chapter,
>                 so most of our broad member intend to handle this
>                 matter personally at this moment, unless this user
>                 identify himself via register as a chapter member.
>
>                 I wonder if any of you had any idea to help him in
>                 this stage
>
>                 Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
>                 Jerry~ÓêÓê
>                 User:Yuyu
>                 http://jeromyu.info
>                 MSN: jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>
>
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