[Cc-hk] Some photos of today's workshop

Kenneth Yip kyip at stanfordalumni.org
Mon Nov 26 08:36:17 EST 2007


Dear Yahong and Alice,

Thanks for the great effort.  Look forward to reading the draft!

Kenneth

On Nov 26, 2007 12:46 PM, Li Yahong <yali at hku.hk> wrote:

>  A few more words on the legal process... Our two student RAs, Rob and
> Jerry, had worked extremely hard in the past few months.  They identified
> all important issues and differences in concepts by carefully studying and
> comparing the standard CC licence, HK copyright law, and licences of several
> jurisdictions such as UK, Australia, US and mainland China.  These issues
> and concepts in turn were thoroughly discussed and debated during our team
> meeting last week.  we are now working on finalizing the draft.  Hopefully
> we will make it available by the end of the year for public comment after
> we get CC international's comments.  Alice and I are working closely
> on making sure that the licence is in compliance with HK copyright law and
> the drafting process is right on track.
>
> Thanks for your patience!
>
> Best,
>
> Yahong
> on behalf of legal team
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com>
> *To:* Charles Mok <charlespmok at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org
> *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2007 11:58 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Cc-hk] Some photos of today's workshop
>
> Hi everybody!! I just want to echo everybody's sentiments, it was a great
> start and I hope we can do a lot more events. I agree about the need for
> community outreach in Cantonese. Daisy and Jack have some great ideas about
> the need to create localized materials. Perhaps we can form a team to start
> drafting these things on the wiki? Perhaps we can also use the wiki to start
> putting together ideas for more outreach activities - where they should be
> held, with whom, how to structure them, etc.
>
> Charles is also right to raise his concern about the sequence of "product
> development" and "marketing." Right now, our legal team is finalizing a
> draft of the licenses. As soon as it is ready they will share it with the
> community for comment and discussion. As most of  you will find
> unsurprising, Hong Kong copyright law is especially problematic (much more
> so than British law) so there are definitely some questions that will need
> to be sorted out before the licenses can be finalized. Anyway, hopefully
> there will be a draft for community review by the end of the year and we
> will be able to have a discussion about what the hurdles might be before
> everything can be finished. But I'm optimistic that we ought to be able to
> launch by next summer if all goes well.
>
> Once the licenses have been localized under Hong Kong law and once both
> the Hong Kong community AND Creative Commons International have given their
> blessing and approval to the licenses, we will be able to create an official
> Creative Commons Hong Kong website and a more official CC-HK organization.
> We will need to start thinking about whether we need to do fundraising to
> support various promotional activities, what we want to do for the launch
> event, and what kinds of activities we should organize before, during, and
> after the launch event.
>
> Lots to do, but all very exciting. I think the event on Saturday proved
> just how much good we can do here in Hong Kong to promote free culture.
>
> Cheers,
> Rebecca
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 10:55 AM, Charles Mok <charlespmok at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Besides promotion, i really want to know the legal progress, which I
> > think is more important at this point than doing "marketing".  We need to do
> > the "product development" first or else we build up too much anticipation
> > with nothing ready to sell?
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >   On Nov 26, 2007 10:50 AM, Jack Qiu <jacklqiu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What about having a localized Q&A flier/webpage using Cantonese
> > > characters to explain what is CC? Has someone already done this? I don't
> > > know how to type Cantonese characters though, but thought that should help
> > > to achieve our goal.
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 26, 2007 9:39 AM, Daisy Maris Fung <daisy.fung at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Ben and all,
> > > >
> > > > 1. Start from school, network like hkedcity.net
> > > > 2. Please translate some proper Chinese material (Don't use the
> > > > "Taiwan feel" text from CC Taiwan, but modify them in HK/Cantonese
> > > > feel/style.  I strongly request materials that regular people/layman like me
> > > > can understand thoroughly.
> > > > 3. Form a list of people who is using CC now in HK.  There are some
> > > > HK bloggers in blogspot or MySinaBlog using CC but no "official channel"
> > > > contact/recognize them.
> > > > 4. I know that Cheung Wai Lun (General Manager of Content Sales in
> > > > New Media Group)  started a group in iProA about Digital Content and New
> > > > Media, just talk to these kind of people and form a full picture of how to
> > > > apply CC from a commercial or non-commercial prospective.
> > > >
> > > > Daisy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 25, 2007 8:29 PM, Ben <chpapa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Daisy and all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the blog! That's true... we should look for more
> > > > > opportunities to organize similar events to help promote CC in
> > > > > this
> > > > > details, to a wider community.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thought? :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 25, 2007 10:30 AM, Daisy Maris Fung <daisy.fung at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Ben,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wrote the event on my blog.
> > > > > > http://daisy.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/creative-commons-workshop-and-blog-to-blook/
> > > > >
> > > > > > And please kindly consider to conduct a Cantonese workshop :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daisy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 25, 2007 2:48 AM, Ben < chpapa at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the talk given by Rebecca, Edmon and Jack Qiu in
> > > > > today
> > > > > > > workshop and the remark by Chan-yau too :-). I myself really
> > > > > like the
> > > > > > > CD played by Jack Qiu~ HEEE....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think this workshop is really great in the sense that many
> > > > > > > participants do not know / know very little about CC before
> > > > > they came,
> > > > > > > which means that we've got more people learn about it :-) ,
> > > > > nice to
> > > > > > > meet all of you today, hope that we can have more chance to
> > > > > talk with
> > > > > > > each others later :-) (I was talking with some students who
> > > > > told me
> > > > > > > after the workshop they are interested in participating and
> > > > > help!
> > > > > > > That's exciting!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've got some photos here:
> > > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com.tw/chpapa/CCWorkshop
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since I dun really take great photo, and I've got the "best"
> > > > > Camera in
> > > > > > > producing noise on the image from Olympus -_-, you may find
> > > > > these
> > > > > > > photos better:
> > > > > > > http://flickr.com/photos/laihiu/sets/72157603282096899/detail/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > These great photos were taken by another "Fans of CC" today
> > > > > :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One student from the Chinese University had helped video
> > > > > recorded
> > > > > > > today's workshop, I will upload and share the video on the
> > > > > mailing
> > > > > > > list once it is ready.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW -- Maybe we should setup a wiki page on cchk.wetpaint.comto host
> > > > > > > the materials from this workshop including links to
> > > > > presentation /
> > > > > > > video / photo / blogs... etc.?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bests,
> > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Ben Cheng
> > > > > > > Mobile: 93816083
> > > > > > > Email: ben at bencheng.net
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> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > > Email: ben at bencheng.net
> > > > >
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> > > School of Journalism and Communication,
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