[Cc-hk] Meeting?

Matthew MF Yuen meymf at ust.hk
Thu Jul 5 07:46:04 EDT 2007


Dear Rebecca and Yahong,

Where shall we meet? Any choice of location?

Regards,

matthew

Yip Kai Kut Kenneth wrote:

> Please count me in, too.
>
> Kenneth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Li Yahong
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:00 PM
> To: meymf; Rebecca MacKinnon
> Cc: cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Meeting?
>
> I am available on both July 30 and 31 too.
> Yahong
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: meymf
>      To: Rebecca MacKinnon
>      Cc: Jon Phillips ; Li Yahong ; cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org
>      Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:06 AM
>      Subject: Re: Meeting?
>      Dear Rebecca,
>
>      I shall make myself available for the meeting on July 30 or
>      31st.
>
>      Regards,
>
>      Matthew
>
>      Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
>
>     > Hi everybody. What are the chances we can meet on July
>     > 30th or 31st? I need to be in Taipei by late evening on
>     > the 31st in order to make the Wikimedia advisory board
>     > meeting, which starts on the morning of Aug. 1st. But I am
>     > otherwise very flexible about timing on the 30th and 31st.
>     > Thanks.Rebecca   On Jun 24, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Jon Phillips
>     > wrote:
>     > On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 19:27 +0800, Rebecca MacKinnon
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > > Hello everybody. Just thought I would revive this thread.
>     > > Shall we
>     > > organize a meeting for July or August?
>     > > Rebecca
>     > >
>     > Hi all, the best time for me is going to be late July,
>     > early august. I
>     > have to be back in SF pretty quick after wikimania.
>     > Is during the week okay? I'm also quite interested in
>     > meeting with
>     > businesses who are interested in using CC licensing. I
>     > would like to
>     > spend 1-2 days in Hong Kong to get CC-HK setup and then
>     > also setup some
>     > high level business meetings to present CC to public and
>     > privately to
>     > key businesses.
>     > What dates seem the best? July 30, 31, August 1, 2 all are
>     > open, but I
>     > have to be in Tapei for wikimania AUG 2-5.
>     > Cheers! Would it make sense to have one legal meetup to
>     > get the legal
>     > team squared away? And then, have a wider public meetup?
>     > Jon
>     >
>     > > On May 21, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Li Yahong wrote:
>     > >
>     > >>  Dear Matthew and Jon,
>     > >>  Perhaps early August is better as Jon can join then.Can
>     > >>  Jon
>     > >>  confirm a date when he is in HK?
>     > >>  Best, Yahong
>     > >>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew MF Yuen"
>     > >>  <meymf at ust.hk>
>     > >>  To: "Jon Phillips" <jon at creativecommons.org>
>     > >>  Cc: "Li Yahong" <yali at hku.hk>;
>     > >>  <cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org>; "uta lam"
>     > >>  <utalam at gmail.com>
>     > >>  Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 9:16 AM
>     > >>  Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Notes from Last Friday's Informal
>     > >>  Lunch - May
>     > >>  11th
>     > >>
>     > >> > Dear Jon,
>     > >> > The important person is Yahong. I would like to pin
>     > >> > down her diary
>     > >> > first. I would be
>     > >> > flexible to accomodate.
>     > >> > Dear Yahong,
>     > >> > Shall we go by July 15 as per suggested?
>     > >> > Regards,
>     > >> > Matthew
>     > >> > Jon Phillips wrote:
>     > >> >
>     > >> >>  On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 10:03 +0800, Matthew Yuen
>     > >> >>  wrote:
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > Dear Jon,
>     > >> >> > I am not sure whether I shall be around on 15th
>     > >> >> > July. Let us
>     > >> >> >
>     > >> >>  work on > this day, if
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > I am not around, I shall get someone in the TTC
>     > >> >> > office to host
>     > >> >> >
>     > >> >>  it.
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > Regards,
>     > >> >> > Matthew
>     > >> >> >
>     > >> >>  Ok, sounds good...what dates are good for you then?
>     > >> >>  Like I said,
>     > >> >>  I can
>     > >> >>  possibly come through early Aug. near wikimania in
>     > >> >>  Taipei.
>     > >> >>  Jon
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > Jon Phillips wrote:
>     > >> >> >
>     > >> >> > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 10:38 +0800, Li Yahong
>     > >> >> > > wrote:
>     > >> >> > >
>     > >> >> > >>  Hi Jon,
>     > >> >> > >>  How about July 15?
>     > >> >> > >>  Yahong
>     > >> >> > >>
>     > >> >> > > That sounds good. I'll be in UK then. Although, I
>     > >> >> > > will be in
>     > >> >> > >
>     > >> >>  Taipei > > Aug
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > > 3-5, so I might be able to swing through then...I
>     > >> >> > > don't want
>     > >> >> > >
>     > >> >>  to slow > > the
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > > process down though.
>     > >> >> > > Jon
>     > >> >> > >
>     > >> >> > >>  ----- Original Message -----
>     > >> >> > >>  From: "Jon Phillips" <jon at creativecommons.org>
>     > >> >> > >>  To: "Mr. Pindar Wong" <pindar at pacific.net.hk>
>     > >> >> > >>  Cc: <cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org>; "Li Yahong"
>     > >> >> > >>  <yali at hku.hk>;
>     > >> >> > >>
>     > >> >>  "Matthew > > > MF Yuen"
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >>  <meymf at ust.hk>; "uta lam" <utalam at gmail.com>
>     > >> >> > >>  Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:05 AM
>     > >> >> > >>  Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] Notes from Last Friday's
>     > >> >> > >>  Informal
>     > >> >> > >>
>     > >> >>  Lunch - May > > > 11th
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 07:56 +0800, Mr. Pindar
>     > >> >> > >> > Wong
>     > >> >> > >> >
>     > >> >>  wrote:
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > On May 16, 2007, at 3:03 AM, Jon Phillips
>     > >> >> > >> > > wrote:
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 00:05 +0800, uta lam
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  wrote:
>     > >> >> > >> > >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > Hi Pindar,
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > Wow, you guys really discuss a lot of
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > issues in the
>     > >> >> > >> > >> >
>     > >> >>  meeting.
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > it was quite informative actually and
>     > >> >> > >> > > fortunately went
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  beyond > > > >> the
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > initial exchanging ofpleasantries ;)
>     > >> >> > >> > > I would imagine that a first formal meeting
>     > >> >> > >> > > would be
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  even more > > > >> so...
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > But as I remember that the key of
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > starting the
>     > >> >> > >> > >> >
>     > >> >>  project is to > > > >> >> identify
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > a legal lead first, any potential
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > candidates
>     > >> >> > >> > >> >
>     > >> >>  nominated from > > > >> >> the
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > meeting?
>     > >> >> > >> > >> >
>     > >> >> > >> > > In trying to understand the status of the
>     > >> >> > >> > > project thus
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  far, we > > > >> also
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > namedMs Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen
>     > >> >> > >> > > (from Jon's
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  first > > > >> meeting
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > on this subject back in 2006)!
>     > >> >> > >> > > As far as we could tell, based on postings
>     > >> >> > >> > > to this
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  list,
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > 1) we've two legal scholarsMs. Yahong Li
>     > >> >> > >> > > (HKU) and
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  Rebecca Ong
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > (City U - kindly introduced by Kenneth)
>     > >> >> > >> > > 2) several individuals associated with
>     > >> >> > >> > > 'academic'
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  bodies - > > > >> applied
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > research (ASTRI) and universities (HKUST,
>     > >> >> > >> > > CU, HKU ... )
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  law > > > >> faculties/
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > media/cultural studies departments
>     > >> >> > >> > > So Uta ...several potential candidates and
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  institutions!;)
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > CC may have already identified both (from
>     > >> >> > >> > > Jon's email
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  below) --> > > >> which
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > is *fantastic* to move things forward! :)
>     > >> >> > >> > > Although the ligh-level process for
>     > >> >> > >> > > formation was clear
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  ( > > > >> http://
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > wiki.creativecommons.org/Worldwide_Overview
>     > >> >> > >> > > ), we
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  nevertheless > > > >> had
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > several operational/logistical/strategic
>     > >> >> > >> > > user-related
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  questions > > > >> as
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > well as some practical ones e.g.whether our
>     > >> >> > >> > > existing
>     > >> >> > >> > > commercial
>     > >> >> > >> > > contacts could be used to leveragepro-bono
>     > >> >> > >> > > work from
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  a > > > >> commercial
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > law firm (Bakers, JSM, Slaughter&May etc)
>     > >> >> > >> > > for the
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  initial review
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > (given that we've a common law history and
>     > >> >> > >> > > version 3.0
>     > >> >> > >> > > released )
>     > >> >> > >> > > So, with the combined experience on this
>     > >> >> > >> > > list, we
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  should have > > > >> enough
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > clue to answer the 'known unknowns' !
>     > >> >> > >> > > As Jon, who was at the first meeting in
>     > >> >> > >> > > 2006, mentioned
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  both
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > Any plan to contact those candidates?
>     > >> >> > >> > >> >
>     > >> >> > >> > > Ah... well they're all on the list and
>     > >> >> > >> > > assumed to be >
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >> > >> > periodically
>     > >> >> > >> >
>     > >> >> > >> > > reading mail.
>     > >> >> > >> > > Based on Yahong's email of May 8th, she
>     > >> >> > >> > > would not be
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  available > > > >> till
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > July (earliest) and the thought of
>     > >> >> > >> > > organising a 1st
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  meeting in > > > >> July
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > was in deference to this reality.
>     > >> >> > >> > > Yahong: Would it be possible for you to
>     > >> >> > >> > > propose a
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  convenient > > > >> date in
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > July per your scheduled?
>     > >> >> > >> > > Matthew: Would it be possible for you to
>     > >> >> > >> > > host this
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  meeting in > > > >> HKUST?
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > Jon: Would it be possible to participate by
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >>  teleconference/video
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > > conference (we could rig something up)?
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >> > >> > Sure, but Catharina, is really the ideal
>     > >> >> > >> > person to do
>     > >> >> > >> >
>     > >> >>  this :)
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > Jon
>     > >> >> > >> >
>     > >> >> > >> > > p.
>     > >> >> > >> > >
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > Thanks,
>     > >> >> > >> > >> > Uta
>     > >> >> > >> > >> >
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  Ms Yahong Li and Prof. Matthew Yuen
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  There is a chance that both Catharina and
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  myself will
>     > >> >> > >> > >>
>     > >> >>  be at
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  wikimania in
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  taiwan in AUG, so depending if either of
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  us get
>     > >> >> > >> > >>
>     > >> >>  there, could > > > >> > possibly
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  swing through. Catharina is your best
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  bet...
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  I will potentially travel through though
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  in the next
>     > >> >> > >> > >>
>     > >> >>  6-9 > > > >> > months
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  because
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  my family lives in Guangzhou...and I'm
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  scouting out
>     > >> >> > >> > >>
>     > >> >>  places to > > > >> > live in
>     > >> >>
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  China/HK ;) (a little personal info for
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  you all :)
>     > >> >> > >> > >>  Jon
>     > >> >> > >> > >>
>     > >> >> > >> > --
>     > >> >> > >> > Jon Phillips
>     > >> >> > >> > jon at creativecommons.org
>     > >> >> > >> > cell: 510.499.0894
>     > >> >> > >> > Community/Business Developer
>     > >> >> > >> > Creative Commons
>     > >> >> > >> > www.creativecommons.org
>     > >> >> > >> >
>     > >> >> > > --
>     > >> >> > > Jon Phillips
>     > >> >> > > jon at creativecommons.org
>     > >> >> > > cell: 510.499.0894
>     > >> >> > > Community/Business Developer
>     > >> >> > > Creative Commons
>     > >> >> > > www.creativecommons.org
>     > >> >> > >
>     > >> >> > --
>     > >> >> > Matthew Yuen, Ph.D.
>     > >> >> > Director, Technology Transfer Centre, and
>     > >> >> > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
>     > >> >> > Hong Kong University of Science & Technology
>     > >> >> > Clearwater Bay,
>     > >> >> > Hong Kong
>     > >> >> > Tel: (852) 2358 7914
>     > >> >> > Fax: (852) 2358 1202
>     > >> >> > Email: meymf at ust.hk
>     > >> >> > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
>     > >> >> >
>     > >> >>  --
>     > >> >>  Jon Phillips
>     > >> >>  jon at creativecommons.org
>     > >> >>  cell: 510.499.0894
>     > >> >>  Community/Business Developer
>     > >> >>  Creative Commons
>     > >> >>  www.creativecommons.org
>     > >> >>
>     > >> > --
>     > >> > Prof. Matthew M F Yuen
>     > >> > Director, Technology Transfer Center and
>     > >> > Professor of Mechanical Engineering
>     > >> > Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
>     > >> > Clearwater Bay, N.T.,
>     > >> > Hong Kong
>     > >> > Tel: (852) 2358 7914,Fax: (852) 2358 1202
>     > >> > Email: meymf at ust.hk
>     > >> > http://www.ttc.ust.hk/
>     > >> >
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>     > > Rebecca MacKinnon
>     > > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
>     > > University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
>     > > email: rmack at hku.hk
>     > > blog: www.RConversation.com
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>     > > Co-founder:
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>     > > "The world is talking. Are you listening?"
>     > >
>     > --
>     > Jon Phillips
>     > jon at creativecommons.org
>     > cell: 510.499.0894
>     > Community/Business Developer
>     > Creative Commons
>     > www.creativecommons.org
>     >
>     >
>     >    Rebecca MacKinnonAssistant Professor, Journalism &
>     > Media Studies Ctr.University of Hong Kong
>     > (http://jmsc.hku.hk) email: rmack at hku.hkblog:
>     > www.RConversation.comTel: +852-2219-4005
>     > Co-founder:www.GlobalVoicesOnline.org"The world is
>     > talking. Are you listening?"
>     >
>      --
>      Prof. Matthew M F Yuen
>      Professor of Mechanical Engineering, and
>      Vice-President, HKUST R&D Corporation,
>      Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
>      Clearwater Bay, N.T.,
>      Hong Kong
>      Tel: (852) 2358 7189,  Fax: (852) 2358 1543
>      Email: meymf at ust.hk
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