[cc-education] cc.edu survey results and deja vu

David Palmer davidpalmer at westnet.com.au
Thu Dec 11 19:52:01 EST 2003


On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 00:40, David Wiley wrote:
> <minor rant>
> Anyone who knows the research we've been doing for the last several 
> years knows that my group and I are all about informal learning. Every 
> funded research project we have going right now is significantly, if not 
> completely, concerned with informal learning targeting underserved 
> populations. The name of the group is "Open Sustainable Learning 
> Opportunity"for goodness sake. I want informal learning to be available 
> via the license as much if not more than anyone else on the list. 
> Personal attacks that accuse me of promoting "class victimization" are 
> either severely uninformed or simply dishonest. I wish we could get on 
> with the business of the list. For example,
> </rant>

I thought that I was describing the situation as it exists, I can't
recall associating that situation with any particular personality?

> 
> Survey respondents said they thought an educational use license would 
> give them rights to make only educational and research related uses of 
> materials, but that these uses need not be restricted to those carried 
> out in formal educational settings (thanks to Stephen for helping me see 
> this more clearly). I believe that the most productive thing for us to 
> do, as list members, is to draft language that expresses a restricion on 
> use to educational and research purposes without invoking the notion of 
> a formal educational institution. As much as members of this list enjoy 
> writing, I would think we could get some excellent drafts laid on the 
> table in fairly short order. =)
> 
> Let's take a week and see how many draft clauses we can gather together. 
> Next Thursday we'll start discussing their relavtive merits. I'll try to 
> make sure that one of lawyers CC has so graciously donated to our cause 
> is listening in.
> 
> If you believe there is something more productive we could be doing than 
> drafting this language (e.g., doing the survey again), let's hear it.
> 
O.K.
Regards,

David.



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