[cc-education] A Second Proposal

tom poe tompoe at amihost.com
Mon Aug 25 18:01:16 EDT 2003


Hi:  How does this fit with technology transfer departments within
educational institutions?
Thanks,
Tom Poe
Open Studios
Reno, NV
http://www.studioforrecording.org/

On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 07:45, Alexander, Bryan wrote:
> That's a good explanation.
> I suggest making that point clear, based on conversations with hundreds of
> college faculty and K-12 instructors, the clear majority of whom would not
> be able to begin to think this question through, due to lack of background.
> 
> 
> Bryan Alexander
> Center for Educational Technology
> http://cet.middlebury.edu/bryan
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Wiley [mailto:david.wiley at usu.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:10 AM
> To: development of an education license or license option for Creative
> Commons
> Subject: Re: [cc-education] A Second Proposal
> 
> 
> Alexander, Bryan wrote:
> 
> >Interesting move.  Would the creator, then, in effect be stretching 
> >first sale principles to have two copyright arrangements at once, for 
> >the same work?
> >
> >If it's agreed, David, it should be clearly stated.
> >  
> >
> B,
> 
> Consider a popular song which is copyright-ed to the hilt. Copyright 
> prohibits commercial use of the song by anyone other than the owner 
> without express permission to do so. However, pop songs turn up in beer 
> and car commericals all the time. How? When a company wants to use the 
> tune in an ad, they simply contact the owner to request and arrange for 
> permission. This is all completelyh kosher under copyright law.
> 
> The same would be true for a cc.edu licensed work. Commerical use is 
> prohibited (unless the owner enters into another agreement with you). 
> There's nothing slick or backdoor about it. Also, since it's common 
> practice, I don't know that it bears explicit statement. (I assume the 
> statement would read something like: Although the right to make 
> commercial uses of this material has been reserved by the owner, you may 
> still contact the owner to ask permission and enter into agreements for 
> commercial uses of the Work.)
> 
> D
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