[cc-devel] ccHosting a local filter of/for ccMixter
jp at ci-fi.org
Wed Aug 23 11:04:54 EDT 2006
I see. Thanks for the clarification Victor and Jon.
The solution you are working on is much more general purpose. I was
not sure how you would respond to the idea, which is why I wanted to
post it on the mailing list.
I'm really excited about ccHost. Also, it does almost everything that
I wanted except for one of my projects except: the ability to easily
mirror content accross ccHost sites, and the ability to financially
contribute to the artists. So I think I will work with ccHost, and try
to build off of it and make some plugins down the road.
(Side note, perhaps this is better placed on the feature request list but:
After playing with ccHost, I was thinking one thing that might make it
easier for artists to say what samples they used, is to create a
Sample Bank for each registered artist. The Sample Bank, would be a
list of links to samples that is populated whenever an artist clicks
the "I sampled this" button, or searches on the "i used samples from"
form, only now the links would be perminantly added. The Sample Bank,
would be kind of like a shopping kart I guess.
I noticed that right now when I click "I Sampled This" it autmaticaly
takes me to the submit a remix page. But if instead, it was appended
to my Sample Bank, then latter when I went to submit the remix, I
could just sheck the samples of my list, rather than have to search.
(This list of the sample bank could be sorted by title, date, and
filtered by tag, etc...)
A benificial side effect of this would be making it easier for artists
to re-download the samples they already used. )
Thanks for the hard work,
On 8/23/06, Jon Phillips <jon at rejon.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 11:31 -0700, Victor Stone wrote:
> > On 8/22/06, John-Paul Arp <jp at ci-fi.org> wrote:
> > > Here I am assuming that ccMixter intends to be a ccHost music hub. But
> > > if not, I was thinking there could be (for example) a Canada ccHost
> > > site, a New Brunswick ccHost site, and a Fredericton ccHost site that
> > > form a hierarchy, and automatically and logically synergize content.
> > ccMixter's goal is not be a hub, just another place where remixes
> > happen and be just another example of ccHost's overall goal
> Excctly, John-Paul, it would be great for you to make your own ccHost
> site that hosts music...The thinking is to have a distributed network of
> media sites that can all connect together...so ccmixter.org is just one
> of those... :)
> > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcHost#Goal
> > We see every ccHost installation as part of a larger web of content,
> > not the top of mirrored hierarchy. We handle cross domain attribution
> > using the sample API.
> > http://ccmixter.org/freesound
> > as an example.
> > Install ccHost and point to ccMixter, Freesound as a sample pool and
> > you are connected.
> > Peace,
> > VS
> > > co-operative in my home town (Fredericton New Brunswick Canada), and I
> > > plan to use ccHost to allow local artists and journalists to host
> > > cc-licensed content. I am also a computer science masters student that
> > > runs a free / open source software club, and I would really like to
> > > contribute to this project (ccHost).
> > >
> > > What I would like to ask you all about, is integrating my (and other)
> > > local ccHost site, with the a centralized site ccMixter, such that:
> > > -all music content on my local sight is mirrored on ccMixter, and
> > > -all content on ccMixter that is tagged as originating from my home
> > > town is archived locally.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think this kind of integration would provide the following benefits:
> > >
> > > 1. The main benefit would be that it provides a means for establishing
> > > a local character and community roots to the Creative Commons
> > > movement.
> > > 2. Conversely, hosting content produced locally on ccMixter would give
> > > it a wider audience.
> > > 3. Data redundancy: if ccMixter was to suffer some tragedy, our
> > > community would retain its culture. Conversely if my home town were to
> > > suffer some tragedy, then, at least part of our culture would be
> > > preserved at ccMixter or archive.org).
> > >
> > > I think this could be accomplished by:
> > > 1. Using a unique tag that signifies that the file originated from a locality.
> > > 2. Having the local site subscribe to a feed from ccMixter and add
> > > locally labeled content that is not already in our database.
> > > 3. Having ccMixter subscribe to my local site, such that it receives
> > > all our music files.
> > >
> > > One problem I can see with this, is that remixes produced elsewhere
> > > would maintain our local tag, and it would be good to distinguish
> > > between music that was produced locally, from music that was made
> > > elsewhere, but with samples that were produced locally.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, there could be another field, besides the tag, that indicates
> > > the originating ccHost site(s).
> > >
> > > Note that though the application I am talking about is integrating a
> > > local hub with a centralized hub, this could be equally useful for
> > > integrating genre hubs (for example) with a central node.
> > >
> > > I hope you find these proposals interesting. As I mentioned, if there
> > > was interest in pursuing this kind of integration, I would be
> > > interested in helping out with the development.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John-Paul
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