[cc-community] Collections [was: Re: public performance and GPL]
drew Roberts
zotz at 100jamz.com
Sun Jan 15 15:51:05 EST 2012
On Sunday 15 January 2012 09:27:39 Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:33:40 -0500
>
> drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday 14 January 2012 19:09:06 Anthony wrote:
> > > On Jan 14, 2012 11:46 AM, "Rob Myers" <rob at robmyers.org> wrote:
> > > > All that said, NC places conditional restrictions on copying based on
> > > > context.
> > >
> > > GPL allows you to copy works which you do not convey without
> > > restriction, but imposes restrictions on copying works which you
> > > convey.
> > >
> > > Walks the same fine line between copyright law and contract law as far
> > > as I can tell.
> >
> > Certainly the things I am talking about concern conveying copies of BY-SA
> > works, parts of them or derivative/adaptations of them to others under
> > non-Free copyright restrictions. Not simply making copies for personal,
> > private uses.
>
> Derivations and adaptations should always fall under copyright. The
> example I gave earlier (which in part is because I really don't follow
> your notion of a collection) with the two books bundled together is an
> example where it's not going to be a derivation or adaptation. It's the
> physical world equivalent of the GPL's 'mere aggregation'
As I say here:
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/2012-January/006689.html
"I don't know what it means to anyone and I am not sure it matters to me. I
think what matters to me is if any properly defined collections as any
country's law defines them get copyright protection."
So for collections or anything else that the law does not give copyright
protection to, proceed as normal.
For collections or anything else that the law does give copyright protections
to, I want BY-SA to kick in if those things incorporate my BY-SA work. (So
long as we have the copyright law we have.)
>
> What is and isn't derivative is itself a minefield. Putting two books
> together in a parcel isn't usually derivative. Putting them both in the
> same cover on the other hand might be.
>
> Alan
all the best,
drew
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