[cc-community] "Games, 3d printing, and functional content" 4.0 wiki page
rob at robmyers.org
Wed Jan 11 15:42:02 EST 2012
On 04/01/12 23:42, Alan Cox wrote:
> I have worked in software for a long time an for software "not clear cut"
> is an understatement. They are about as well defined as the US budget
> reduction plan. So much hinges on history and intent, exact form of
> combination etc.
> Think about books even - if I add a chapter to your book is that a derived
> work or just a combination. If I bundle your book and my chapter
> together ? Even in this case it generally depends on the nature of that
> chapter, how the user perceives the divide etc. And if you think that is
> irrelevant to software it is where questions about things like compiled in
> firmware for GPL drivers end up looking for caselaw...
> It's a very large, very expensive grey fuzzy fog.
Yes I had in mind forms of work (code/art/data) rather than
linking/adaptation/derivation and should have been much clearer.
Fan art is possibly another useful area for consideration.
I'm happy with the *criteria* for this kind of thing, but I recognise
that the *degree* is uncertain.
Are there any canonical cases that can be added to the Wiki for this? My
area is fine art rather than literature...
>> Can their representations in code/software be copyrighted, as per Type 1
> Only if they are a creative work in themselves.
I mention Type 1 fonts precisely because they are copyrightable
representations of the uncopyrightable. I suppose the output is still
uncopyrightable, so this doesn't move things on much.
>> I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but: would it be possible to
>> make the *copying* license conditional on not using the cogs in a
>> proprietary machine? Or would this be trivially circumventable (you
>> print the cogs, you give them to me, I make the proprietary machine with
> The proprietary world has been full of (failed) attempts to do this, and
> in many cases the failure cases were with contract law which is far
Do you have any good examples of this? I ask both so they can be added
to the CC wiki for this and because I'm interested in the ODbL, which
has a contract law element. :-)
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