[cc-community] NC, anticapitalism and clashing visions of freedom - was: More discussion on NC
zotz at 100jamz.com
Sun Oct 24 17:21:58 EDT 2010
On Sunday 24 October 2010 13:52:45 j.martin.pedersen wrote:
> On 24/10/10 16:30, drew Roberts wrote:
> > On Sunday 24 October 2010 09:59:45 j.martin.pedersen wrote:
> >>> "anti-corporate, anti-capitalist"
> >>> Does this have some code word meanings in some circles that I am not
> >>> aware of?
> >> To answer that I would have to read your mind. Or was it a rhetorical
> >> question?
> > No, it was not rhetorical.
> > To me the main decent benefits of a corporation is to limit the liability
> > of a person or persons entering into a business and to allow people to
> > pool their resources in a defined way to undertake projects that re too
> > big for them to take on alone. I am not against this but may be convinced
> > otherwise. I am not happy with a lot of what is being done by
> > corporations today.
> > I did a quick google search for capital. Here is one result:
> > http://www.ehow.com/how_4443106_define-capital.html
> > What if anything do you have a problem with and why?
> This is not about me and this is not about defending the position that
I was not suggesting it was about you. It is simply a figure of speech. I was
not asking you to defend anything, rather asking for an explanation of what
the problem is.
> is held and shared by hundreds of millions of people in social movements
> around the world and which has been built through generations for
> hundreds of years, but about finding a way to include such people and
> their ideas and experience in free culture, but if you do need education
> on the matter, this is an interesting entry-level film:
Who knows if I need educating on the matter. I am always interested in
improving myself and my outlook on and understanding of life though so...
> This might also provide a bit more context:
> And a journal which is all free:
> Also useful:
> > Supposedly *you* want to educate *me* but I am supposed to pay you for
> > that education? Good luck with that. (In case it is not clear, this is a
> > generic you and me here.)
> Although I generally agree and would never publish anything unless it
> was freely available, there is, still, this thing called libraries for
Well, good luck with that in some countries. I happen to be in one such by my
estimation. I would not waste my time going to one to search for such
So again, for people who actually want to get their message out and think that
their message is more important than any money they can earn for themselves
by selling copies of their message I suggest once again that this be
Make it Free.
and put it on the net someplace accessible and findable.
> > So, do you have any links to that information on simple web sites? Links
> > to Free documents with the same info? (Not interested in filling my mind
> > with NC stuff here mind you.)
> Provided above.
all the best,
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