[cc-community] NC, anticapitalism and clashing visions of freedom - was: More discussion on NC
j.martin.pedersen
m.pedersen at lancaster.ac.uk
Fri Oct 15 18:04:34 EDT 2010
On 15/10/10 14:23, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> The menu type thing actually might work kept to a few choices - you'd
> effectively end up with a set of NC licences but its simple to see how
> they combine if you phrase the questions all the same way and without
> contradictions. The permitted activities become the intersection of the
> sets of combined works (which at a higher level is how CC/CC-SA etc all
> work)
........... Few choices sounds good, so have we rephrased the question
to determine what they could be?
> Economically the question of how much variety to allow seems really to
> be "at what point the cost in terms of proliferation and complexity
> exceed the economic value of the simplicity and not turning into a
> permission culture"
Yes, but the economic - the calculable - is not the only side of the
consequentialist coin. The social, political and cultural is not
determined by economics - in an ideal world, at the moment, yes - but
ought to be equal factors. Creating connections between movements, even
if they cannot agree on ownership questions in the tangible realm, is
important.
The creation of an anti-corporate culture is important for a global
movements of movements that take as a starting point resistance to
enclosure in the tangible realm. These movements agree that enclosure in
cyberspace is something to resist, but see it as a struggle in extension
of the struggle for access to land and resources (without which there
can be no cyberspace either), and that therefore the struggle begins in
the tangible realm through alternative configurations of property
relations. Seen that way, those movements have a more coherent political
and philosophical position, since they do not primarily distinguish
between tangible and intangible, but between shared or owned
exclusively. In which medium the property configuration takes place is
secondary, the social and cultural is primary.
-m
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