[cc-community] More discussion on NC
zotz at 100jamz.com
Wed Oct 13 10:15:39 EDT 2010
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 07:40:53 cc at phizz.demon.co.uk wrote:
> rob at robmyers.org wrote:
> > On 10/12/2010 09:56 PM, j.martin.pedersen wrote:
> > > Why? Because that is Free Software and Free Culture
> > > freedom: let us share with anyone, no matter what their intentions and
> > > history are.
> > If the ecology involves corporations and if Free Software and Free
> > Culture say that you have to share with everyone then this means that
> > those corporations are not only having to share with their critics but
> > are giving them more than they get in return from any given individual.
> It doesn't work for images.
Right, but it perhaps could if CC wanted to tweak the license some. There
seems some strange resistance to doing this though as any discussions in this
area always peter out before an actual understanding of the possible process
and laying out of possible pros and cons are reached.
> The copyright on the image rarely extends
> outside of the borders of the image. A corporation could use any BY-SA
> images in their promotional material without incurring the viral cost of
> the SA aspect of the license. Some book could take any of my photos and not
> be bound by the SA aspect wrt to the text of the guide book. In effect they
> get free images and contribute nothing back to "Free Culture".
> How are the Software licenses going to hold up in the face of cloud
> computing? For example someone takes a GNU licensed application, GIMP for
> example, does some value added tweak to provide a few
> super-delux-nifty-filter thingies and runs it as a paid for application on
> their own servers. A sort of Picnik application with Gimp as the backend.
> No copy invoke, no need to put the changes back into core, no invocation of
> the copyleft.
This is what (at least one of) the reason(s) that the AGPL exists.
Some software people are concerned about and working on the gutting of the GPL
via the software as a service game and related plays.
all the best,
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