[cc-community] More discussion on NC

Lloyd cc at phizz.demon.co.uk
Tue Oct 12 18:38:21 EDT 2010


On 11/10/2010 22:00, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>> Claiming success for freeware businesses that ride on the free content
>> provided by 1000s of idealistic kids, and those desparate to please
>> their tutors is not going to fly with me. I think it is reminiscent of
>> those that preached up the Children's Crusades
>
> You are self contradictory it seems, and insulting, but then you seem to
> be trolling at this point for the most part.
>

You don't think that someone might just genuinely believe that 
moneterizing the free gifts of others is a form of exploitation? Granted 
that CC analogy might not streatch to all the way to Mediteranian coast 
were those kids got sold into slavery but its certainly well within 
shouting distance.

>
> Maybe its putting a few "closed" businesses out of work, but diddums
> that's market forces for you. Ebay destroyed most of the second hand comic
> shops,


I suspect that most of them closed up the shop on the corner and went 
online.


> Linux destroyed the closed educational OS competitors, free
> photographs have put a lot of crap photographers out of business.
>

Hardly, they are still doing formulaic weddings, kid, and pet portraits.


>> Or that I took it outside of the Capitalist exchange system, and no one
>> is putting back in there. You want to make money from X go find some
>> thing else.
>
> You seem to act as if I want to use your content when you don't want me
> to, or I'm opposed to NC - I'm not. On the contrary I use NC licencing
> for some of the stuff I do in the photoetching world.
>


YOU shouldn't take you to be personal, you isn't always about YOU.


> As to taking things outside the capitalist exchange system - the state
> will put it back for you. They may wait until after you've kicked the
> bucket, or in the case of music you've non-commercially performed
> publically may not even extend you that courtesy in some cases. If the
> orphan work studies are right then most likely as soon as you depart your
> relatives will also just give it away 8)
>

Oh I'll give the copyrights to some anti-capitalist Anarchist group or 
other.



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