[cc-community] More discussion on NC

Lloyd cc at phizz.demon.co.uk
Sun Oct 10 13:05:31 EDT 2010


On 10/10/2010 14:01, Andrew Rens wrote:
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> On 10 October 2010 07:21, Lloyd <cc at phizz.demon.co.uk
> <mailto:cc at phizz.demon.co.uk>> wrote:
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>     On 10/10/2010 00:18, Andrew Rens wrote:
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>         Before I misrepresent him here is the link to his blog post. Its not
>         about NC its about creating a range of licenses that cover an entire
>         license space: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/67
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>     I think it is no coincidence that the most successful open source
>     projects are also core computer science topic covered by
>     universities... Hardly any of the crowd sourcing activites that
>     occur with open source applies to the works that are most often
>     associated with CC licenses, with the exception of wikipedia.
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> What does this mean for NC, that NC is a good idea or not? That NC would
> prevent successful large scale projects or that NC will result in large
> scale projects?
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Well it certainly means that wikipedia have to settle for second rate 
images or at least they deny themselves the millions of CC-NC images 
that could be available to them. And in my experience people do not 
understand CC-BY on flickr there are continual complaints that some 
one's CC-BY licensed work has been used commercially.

You'll find that the contributors to wikipedia also get a little pissy 
when they discover that articles that they've worked on are are being 
exploited commercially (well yes that is what CC-BY-SA means). Or when 
they've worked on restoring some old photographs and then find them 
being sold as prints on eBay etc. A lot of them, once they realize that 
they are basically providing free copy for some commercial publisher 
stop working on wikipedia altogether. They go away feeling somewhat cheated.




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