[cc-community] More discussion on NC
andrewrens at gmail.com
Sun Oct 10 09:33:59 EDT 2010
> What about Mark Shuttleworth's argument that by including the people who
> want NC in the CC community CC has prevented license proliferation because
> otherwise people who want NC style licenses would have created multiple
> attempts at an NC license?
I received a response:
> Shuttleworth is, as ever, asking the wrong question. There would not be
> more work under NC licences if CC hadn't produced such a licence.
This seems to misunderstand my representation of what Shuttleworth argued.
This could be because I didn't convey it clearly.
He argued that it made sense for Creative Commons to offer a range of
options, he didn't actually mention NC, but an attribution only option, a
share alike option, an NC option etc.
The comparison is with open source software; in which it is difficult to
plot the interstices between say the BSD and the GPL.
By way of contrast Creative Commons has covered an entire license space, it
is clear how CC By relates to CC SA for instance because the only difference
is one element. This promotes clarity, and makes choices between licenses
easier, especially for those who aren't license geeks.
In response to the question "There would not be more work under NC licences
if CC hadn't produced such a licence." Mike asked:
> How do you know?
> drew replied:
> this is pretty much a given just by definition. If CC did not have an NC
> license option then the number of works under a cc NC license would be zero,
> clearly less than the number of works under a cc NC license currently.
drew went on
> I suspect you are really asking if more works would be under some alternate
> NC license. That, I don't think we can know for sure. But if CC had come out
> of the gate with just BY and BY-SA and used all of the publicity and all
> that they did, we would likely have been in a better place. BUG ASSUMPTION:
> Assuming that CC would have gotten the same effort from workers and
> volunteers with only a Free agenda.
This second issue is an interesting one but I did want to make clear its not
exactly what I asked about.
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