[cc-community] How can i make a new document license ?
narendra sisodiya
narendra.sisodiya at gmail.com
Wed Jan 13 02:57:30 EST 2010
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Gisle Hannemyr <gisle at ifi.uio.no> wrote:
> On 12.01.2010 13:10, narendra sisodiya wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 5:14 PM, jonathon <jonathon.blake at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 17:24, narendra sisodiya wrote:
>
> >>>>> 1) How can I create a new license?
>
> Jonathon has answered this.
>
> But I will ask you to reconsider, as CC BY-SA will probably do what
> you want.
>
> >>>>> 2) is CC-SA is a valid license scheme ?
>
> >> It is valid. Whether or not it does what you think it does is a
> >> different issue.
>
> No, it is not valid, nor would it be legal in Berne signature
> countries (see my other post about this).
>
> >>>>> 3) If my content is present on web under CC-By-SA then what happen
> >>>>> after my death? does it goes under public domain?
>
> >> What happens upon your demise depends upon either your geographic
> >> location at the time of death, or the geographic location in which
> >> copyright was registered, or some combination thereof.
>
> This is correct. But in most countries in the world it would remain
> under copyright (and under CC BY-SA) until the expiry the of the
> economic rights (typically 70 years after the death of the longest
> living author). In Norway, which is where I live, moral rights
> actually lasts forever (so creative works /never/ enter the public
> domain here - there is no such things as a public domain in Norway).
>
> > There is a issue.
> > For example, If I want to take article from wikipedia, I have to
> > attribute them. it means, I have to go to the history and look authors
> > name and so on. If I compose a article which include wikipedia text,
> > wikibook text and flickr then , the pain will be in finding the
> > attribution. When somebody want to take article from site, he has to
> > go on history page and print attribution.
>
> CC BY-SA requires attribution, but unlike the GFDL, it does not
> tell you /how/ to do the attribution. (This is one of the great
> advantages of CC BY-SA compared to GFDL, and the main reason that
> Wikipedia recently adopted a licensing scheme permitting reuse
> under CC BY-SA).
>
> This flexibility lets publishers set their own guidelines for
> attribution, and this is exactly what Wikipedia has done.
> You find these rules on the page "Terms of Use":
>
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
>
> It says about "Attribution":
>
> "Attribution: To re-distribute a text page in any form, provide credit
> to the authors either by including
> a) a hyperlink (where possible) or URL to the page or pages you
> are re-using,
> b) a hyperlink (where possible) or URL to an alternative, stable
> online copy which is freely accessible, which conforms with
> the license, and which provides credit to the authors in a
> manner equivalent to the credit given on this website, or
> c) a list of all authors. (Any list of authors may be filtered
> to exclude very small or irrelevant contributions.)"
>
> Thanks a lot for info. But IMO, these are the wikipedia guidelines. At any
remix level, for example, If wikiHow take page from wikipedia then WikiHow
can put his Attribution guideline which may differ from Wikipedia one. So
for reusing, I have to understand -- "Term of use" for every new hosting
website. I do not think this may take much time.
So to reuse a text page from Wikipedia on the web, you don't have
> to go to the history as you say. You can pick option (a) and
> just link back to the original article.
>
> (For non-text media, such as images, you need to attribute the
> creator, but since most non-text media has a single creator, this
> should not be much of a problem).
>
> For printed text, a hyperlink is not possible, but option (a)
> allow you to fulfil the attribution requirement by printing
> the URL to the page or pages you are re-using.
>
> > IMO , CC-BY-SA is good license, but at the "Remix-Level=0" , which
> > means, adaptation is work is easy
> > but When "Remix-Level=1 to 5" managing attribution is very difficult.
> >
> > So, I want to see a system where "just - copy paste" is legal.
>
> I think CC BY-SA is more flexible than you think. But if you
> want to do away with attribution, take a look at CC0. However
> it does not have the "copyleft" (SA) element:
> http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/
>
>
> > Let me explain more :
> > 1) If I go on a wikipedia article, then If I take print-out and sell
> > them, It will be copyright violation, as simply copy paste/print does
> > not attribute it. Or process of attribution is not very clear So it
> > make hard to reprint and sell wiki content.
>
> But including the URL to the original would suffice to satisfy the
> attribution requirement.
>
> Thanks, Also, wikipedia should include article url at each webpage/article
so that printing a page becomes a "auto attributed" process.
> So IMO, We must have some sort of "Pool License" where
> > * You are free to copy/share/sell/adapt work
> > * Any remix must released under same "Pool License"
> >
> > So any remix will increase the size of this "Knowledge/Content Pool" -
> >
> > I am highly concentrating on highly easy remixing process where remix
> > level goes to many levels such as wiki content.
>
> I think CC BY-SA should work for you.
>
Thanks a lot, I have posted new thread on TCFE discussion. Please have a
look, if you have not !
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