[cc-community] sample+ being retired? - was Re: is there a bug in the sample+ 1.0 license?

Mike Linksvayer ml at creativecommons.org
Mon Feb 1 21:10:03 EST 2010


On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Atom Smasher <atom at smasher.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Mike Linksvayer wrote:
>
> > But I do strongly disrecommend using sampling+ which probably isn't
> > compatible with any of the other CC licenses (due to the advertising
> > prohibition at least) as reflected at
> > http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7145 and will be marked as
> > "retired" soon.


...


> i see the sample+ license as a very valuable *addition* to the core
> licenses. i'll probably be releasing music that's multiple licensed under
> one or more core licenses and the sample+ license. compatibility issues
> practically require the core licenses, but i also want to allow commercial
> music to sample and remix my music, but a CC-BY license is giving away too
> much (for what i'm trying to achieve).
>

There's a legal interoperability problem that itself would be difficult to
solve. There's an even bigger "social" problem with understanding another
slightly different set of licenses. Three data points offhand: (1) Nearly
everyone who encounters sampling+ is confused, and if they re-encounter they
forget and are re-confused. I've done polls on the sly of people extremely
familiar with CC, and get confirmation just about every time (2) ccMixter,
the site where sampling+ was launched, doesn't find the license helpful,
read about it in the site director's "memoir"
http://fourstones.net/ccmixter-a-memoir and (3) freesound, the site with the
most sampling+ stuff, doesn't like the license either, in fact the launch of
freesound v2 soonish is the planned retirement date.

In sum, a license that adds a use case is not necessarily good overall if it
creates fragmentation.

Mike
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