[cc-community] A novel argument for NC: suppress demand for print
Fred Benenson
fred.benenson at gmail.com
Tue May 19 11:00:56 EDT 2009
If I understand this correctly .. the managers think NC will discourage
physical reproductions and favor the switch to digital because physical
versions cost money in materials and labor, the costs of which would likely
be recouped via commercial profit. In other words, since digital works are
cost-free to copy, the NC license inherently favors works being produced in
that medium. While it would be too strong to say that NC requires digital
distribution (someone could spend their own time and money duplicating
course materials on a photo copier), it is certainly sufficient and likely.
They are also seem to be concerned that convincing teachers that others
should be able to commercially exploit their work will be impossible.
Interesting.
F
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On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Mike Linksvayer <ml at creativecommons.org>wrote:
> It isn't too often I see a new argument for or against non-commercial
> licensing, but since this list loves the topic, passing on without
> further comment... (see last paragraph below)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk at googlemail.com>
> Date: Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:40 AM
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Open teaching materials in the Netherlands
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Maybe this is interesting for Wikimedians too, certainly for Wikibookians.
> The Dutch ministry of education is going to set up "Wikiwijs", a project to
> develop provide open and free school books or teaching materials to Dutch
> schools. In the elections the parties promised to abolish parents' payments
> for school books, and now the government has to cope with the costs.
>
> On a seminar in Amersfoort at Friday it became obvious that many questions
> are still unanswered. Wikiwijs is intended to be a platform for
> collaboratively developping teachings materials, but also link to already
> existing materials (also commercial ones). Although a letter of the
> minister
> to the parliament said that only teachers will be able to edit on Wikiwijs,
> now this remains to be discussed.
>
> Kennisnet (a government foundation known to Wikimedians because it
> supported
> Wikipedia with technological help) and the Open University are commissioned
> to create Wikiwijs. The man from the Open University admitted that Wikiwijs
> will not work like a wiki, and Marjon Bakker from Wikimedia Nederland asked
> him why the name is Wikiwijs then. (But on many occasions the minister and
> others compared Wikiwijs to Wikipedia - are they exploiting our good name?)
>
> The organisation of Dutch high schools wants to set up a different project.
> This has to do a lot with the distribution of power between the agents in
> the educational system in the Netherlands, and also within the schools.
>
> Nearly all already existing initiatives for open teaching materials use the
> CC-NC-SA, the Creative Commons license that prohibits commercial use. I was
> told that you cannot explain to teachers why others should have the right
> to
> commercially exploit their work...
>
> The project manager of the organisation of Dutch high schools gave me a
> very
> striking reason against a license that allows commercial use: Most of the
> teachers want to teach with the help of ordinary school books, with
> additional material taken from the internet. They want to have something on
> paper. If the school book publishers are allowed to make print versions
> from
> open content, then the teachers want those print versions. They will put
> pressure on their head masters to buy them, and then the shift from print
> to
> digital will not occur, and the plan of the organisation to save 385
> millions € will not become reality. So, the manager says, the better if
> the
> publishers cannot sell print versions.
>
> Ziko van Dijk
>
> read more in German on
> http://groups.google.de/group/infobrief-wiki-welt/msg/21c9f6c00634d13c?
>
>
>
> --
> Ziko van Dijk
> NL-Silvolde
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