[cc-community] selling book rights, and CC-BY-SA
Hessel van Oorschot
hessel at tribeofnoise.com
Sat Jul 25 08:50:35 EDT 2009
Good luck and all the best!
Chris Watkins schreef:
> Many thanks for the answers. I've had another thought:
>
> As CC-BY-SA allows the creator to specify how attribution is given,
> can they specify that it can't be published (by someone else) under
> title X as the work of author Y? That would take a lot of the
> incentive out of a third party trying to just print and sell the work.
> The problem is with the title - AFAIK the license doesn't allow the
> creator to forbid the use of a certain title... but perhaps if it's
> trademarked, they can forbid it?
>
>
> I don't think the publisher and author will take to the idea of giving
> up on selling rights to the book, and just selling merchandise or
> personalized versions, especially as this is a more serious work,
> rather than an artistic or pop culture work. I'll certainly pass the
> idea along though.
>
> Thanks again,
> Chris
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 23:41, jonathon <jonathon.blake at gmail.com
> <mailto:jonathon.blake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:30, drew Roberts wrote:
>
> >> Now we just got an email: the publisher has been reading
> through the licence and are concerned about how it affects their
> ability to sell rights for the book overseas.. why would a
> publisher in, say, Korea buy the book when they could just
> download and publish?
>
> What rights did the original publisher think they were buying?
>
> >> It seems to me that this is a completely valid concern - a
> CC-BY-SA license makes it unsellable internationally. The only
> thing I can suggest, if they do have any expectation of selling
> the rights, is that they restrict their work with an NC clause and
> do it on their own wiki or subwiki.
>
> > Why would the publisher pay the authors in the first place? What
> prevents them from making use of the BY-SA license locally and not
> paying the authors?
>
> If the original content was CC-BY-SA licensed (any version), then
> there is nothing preventing that Korean, or even local publisher (to
> the company that paid for publication rights )from printing, and
> distributing the work.
>
>
> > What is special about the internation situation?
>
> My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the publisher thought that
> they were buying either "worldwide publication rights", or "first
> publishing rights". In either instance, the typical publisher
> expectation is that they get to negotiate with other publishers.
>
> > Why would the publisher pay in the local market when other local
> publishers can print and sell copies without paying the authors
> monies?
>
> > I think answering this may shed some further light on the issue.
>
> > (Asking out of ignorance...) In the book business, is it normal
> for the author to sell the publisher worldwide rights and the
> publisher to then sub-sell those rights to various regions?
>
> Up until roughly fifteen years ago, that was standard operating
> procedure. A number of smaller publishing houses still work that way.
>
> > Or is it normal for the author to sell regional rights around
> the world?
>
> For authors in either niche fields, and extremely popular fiction
> authors, that has become standard operating procedure in the last
> fifteen years.
>
> > How are authors going to convince their readers to purchase
> BY-SA (or BY) works from sources where the authors get some income
> rather than from sources where the authors get no revenue?
>
> Personalization: Autographed and inscribed copies being one example.
>
> jonathon
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