[cc-community] selling book rights, and CC-BY-SA
chriswaterguy at appropedia.org
Sat Jul 25 08:24:24 EDT 2009
Many thanks for the answers. I've had another thought:
As CC-BY-SA allows the creator to specify how attribution is given, can they
specify that it can't be published (by someone else) under title X as the
work of author Y? That would take a lot of the incentive out of a third
party trying to just print and sell the work. The problem is with the title
- AFAIK the license doesn't allow the creator to forbid the use of a certain
title... but perhaps if it's trademarked, they can forbid it?
I don't think the publisher and author will take to the idea of giving up on
selling rights to the book, and just selling merchandise or personalized
versions, especially as this is a more serious work, rather than an artistic
or pop culture work. I'll certainly pass the idea along though.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 23:41, jonathon <jonathon.blake at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:30, drew Roberts wrote:
> >> Now we just got an email: the publisher has been reading through the
> licence and are concerned about how it affects their ability to sell rights
> for the book overseas.. why would a publisher in, say, Korea buy the book
> when they could just download and publish?
> What rights did the original publisher think they were buying?
> >> It seems to me that this is a completely valid concern - a CC-BY-SA
> license makes it unsellable internationally. The only thing I can suggest,
> if they do have any expectation of selling the rights, is that they restrict
> their work with an NC clause and do it on their own wiki or subwiki.
> > Why would the publisher pay the authors in the first place? What prevents
> them from making use of the BY-SA license locally and not paying the
> If the original content was CC-BY-SA licensed (any version), then
> there is nothing preventing that Korean, or even local publisher (to
> the company that paid for publication rights )from printing, and
> distributing the work.
> > What is special about the internation situation?
> My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the publisher thought that
> they were buying either "worldwide publication rights", or "first
> publishing rights". In either instance, the typical publisher
> expectation is that they get to negotiate with other publishers.
> > Why would the publisher pay in the local market when other local
> publishers can print and sell copies without paying the authors monies?
> > I think answering this may shed some further light on the issue.
> > (Asking out of ignorance...) In the book business, is it normal for the
> author to sell the publisher worldwide rights and the publisher to then
> sub-sell those rights to various regions?
> Up until roughly fifteen years ago, that was standard operating
> procedure. A number of smaller publishing houses still work that way.
> > Or is it normal for the author to sell regional rights around the world?
> For authors in either niche fields, and extremely popular fiction
> authors, that has become standard operating procedure in the last
> fifteen years.
> > How are authors going to convince their readers to purchase BY-SA (or BY)
> works from sources where the authors get some income rather than from
> sources where the authors get no revenue?
> Personalization: Autographed and inscribed copies being one example.
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