[cc-community] selling book rights, and CC-BY-SA

Hessel van Oorschot hessel at tribeofnoise.com
Tue Jul 14 13:12:55 EDT 2009


Hi Chris,

I know at least one book did well with a NC license: LITTLE BROTHER, by 
Cory Doctorow. Is a NY Times bestseller 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/15/books/bestseller/0615bestchildren.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) 
#8 Chapter books.

It's available for free to download here:  
http://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/
The license they use: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

Isn't there an opportunity to license only the book under CC-BY-SA but 
offer everything else (merchandise, special content add-ons, movie 
script etc.) under a different license (or consider CC+ if you find a 
sponsor / company who wants to white label your book (limited edition, 
their brand) | part of your content). You can use CC+ to negotiate a 
deal without (for example) Share Alike.

Hope my 2 cents are helpful.

Kindest regards - Hessel


Chris Watkins schreef:
> I just got an email from one of our partners. They're sharing their 
> work under CC-BY-SA - we suggested it, and their publisher happily 
> went along with it. I was surprised they agreed so readily, but we do 
> know the publisher is very progressive.
>
> Now we just got an email: the publisher has been reading through the 
> licence and are concerned about how it affects their ability to sell 
> rights for the book overseas..  why would a publisher in, say, Korea 
> buy the book when they could just download and publish? 
>
> It seems to me that this is a completely valid concern - a CC-BY-SA 
> license makes it unsellable internationally. The only thing I can 
> suggest, if they do have any expectation of selling the rights, is 
> that they restrict their work with an NC clause and do it on their own 
> wiki or subwiki.
>
> To be honest, I'm not a fan of the NC license as it's normally used, 
> but the restriction could be softened a bit:
>
>     * Add a notice that the work will be released under CC-BY-SA after
>       (say) 5 years, in addition to the NC license.
>     * Release segments of the book and/or the older version of the
>       book under CC-BY-SA. This is less commercially desirable
>       material than the latest work by the author, but still
>       enormously valuable to a wiki like ours, and helps spread
>       awareness of this author and his work.
>
> Any other ideas? Or is there something I've missed about the CC-BY-SA 
> license?
>
> Another idea, if the author take the NC route: We could continue to 
> allow people to make additions to the book on our wiki, but add a 
> notice saying that these pages are under a dual license: CC-BY-NC-SA 
> as well as the wiki's default CC-BY-SA. That way, the author could 
> choose from these additions to use in his own work. This has the 
> advantage of being a bit complex, but does allow for better sharing. 
> (Using just CC-BY is the other option, but I think we're more 
> comfortable with the Share Alike clause.)
>
> Feedback appreciated!
> -- 
> Chris Watkins
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