[cc-community] cc licensing of covers of ARR songs?
Haggen So
haggenso at gmail.com
Tue Feb 17 20:41:04 EST 2009
Sorry everyone, I supposed to address this email to Jessica, but...
Luckily, there is no secret or any important private matters. drew's
reply is also helpful.
Thanks,
Haggen
2009/2/17 drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com>:
> On Tuesday 17 February 2009 01:21:42 Haggen So wrote:
>> Hi Jessica,
>>
>> 2009/1/15 Jessica Coates <j2.coates at qut.edu.au>:
>> > As for Drew's comment about better education materials - most definitely
>> > we could do with more information out there about downstream licensing
>> > and CC. I touched on this (though from the other angle) in relation to
>> > derivatives under the BY and BY-NC licences in my presentation at the
>> > Legal Day in Sapporo.
>> >
>> > The problem is, it really is ridiculously complex,
>
> And this to should be a long term goal to people interested in this issue...
> To make this whole thing less complex, at least as it pertains to Free
> licensed downstream uses and possibly the NC licensed ones too.
>
>> > and not always
>> > intuitive, how downstream licensing works. Writing it all up in a way
>> > that is useful to artists will be quite a challenge.
>
> I find it constantly challenging and am constantly having to revise my
> internal model of how this all works as I think I learn new bits and pieces.
>
>> > Particularly when
>> > we're talking about things like licensing under statutory licences, which
>> > change from place to place. I suspect in the end we might have to resort
>> > to at least a bit of 'ask your licensing body'. And from experience I
>> > know even they don't often really know how their licences work.
>
> I think a lot of times, they have never conceived that someone might want to
> do things the way some of us want to do them. There is no concept of Free and
> copyleft licensing and how they can be handled in the wild. I hope this will
> change but sometimes I wonder if it will happen or if parallel "groups"
> formed with Free (and copyleft) licensing in mind will have to arise before
> any real change occurs. I hope not, that road seems too long.
>>
>> We met last year in Taiwan CC conference. Unfortunately, you cannot
>> come this year and I cannot ask you in person. Do you have more
>> materials on BY and BY-NC derivatives "problem"?
>>
>> Haggen
>
> all the best,
>
> drew
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