[cc-community] Powerhouse Museum goes all CC
shell_layer-creativecommons at yahoo.com.au
shell_layer-creativecommons at yahoo.com.au
Tue Apr 7 08:36:11 EDT 2009
Hi, Gavin.
Yes, BY-NC/BY-SA is a strange choice of licences. Still, if those particular licence terms are what the museum wanted to apply to its works, then that's what they wanted. When one licence allows commercial use, and the other doesn't, then clearly these are considered to be two different kinds of works. It's not surprising that you aren't allowed to mix them.
I agree with your point, though, in that I don't see why they need ShareAlike. Just plain BY seems like it would do fine, especially as the noncommercial licence doesn't have ShareAlike.
Carl
--- On Sat, 4/4/09, Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com> wrote:
From: Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com>
Subject: Re: [cc-community] Powerhouse Museum goes all CC
To: cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org
Received: Saturday, 4 April, 2009, 2:04 AM
See this license compatibility chart from CC TW:
http://creativecommons.org.tw/static/choose/license/licwizeng
BY-SA is only compatible with BY-SA (i.e., BY-SA works can't become
something else).
BY-NC is compatible only with licenses with an NC clause (i.e., NC works
can't be moved to a license without NC).
(This is avoiding the issue, acknowledged in the Museum's announcement,
that the "works" licensed BY-SA are mere collections of factual data --
information which is important and valuable and which required effort to
compile, but which we would not expect to qualify for copyright
protection, in the U.S. at least.)
Peter Troxler wrote:
> Gavin: interesting -- could you expand on the incompatibility issue?
>
> / Peter
>
> On 3 apr 2009, at 16:41, Gavin Baker wrote:
>
>> Great for them, but --
>>
>> has anyone mentioned that these are 2 incompatible licenses?
>>
>> In other words, a re-user can't mash-up the two types of the museum's
>> OWN content. Am I wrong?
>>
>> Jessica Coates wrote:
>>> From the CCau website:
>>>
>>> Those who have been following CC and the public domain in Australia will
>>> know that the Powerhouse Museum
>>> <http://creativecommons.org.au/node/%E2%80%9Dhttp://www.powerhousemuseum.com>
>>>
>>> in Sydney has long been one of the best local advocates of open access
>>> in action. Not only have they released hundreds of public domain photos
>>> <http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/dmsblog/index.php/2008/04/08/powerhouse-museum-joins-the-commons-on-flickr-the-what-why-and-how/>
>>>
>>> from their collection as part of the Flickr Commons
>>> <http://www.flickr.com/commons?PHPSESSID=ea7b4da468f5935f24b65f41dbfc356f>,
>>>
>>> they also publish much of their teaching material
>>> <http://play.powerhousemuseum.com/> and their ‘photo of the day’
>>> <http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/imageservices/> blog under CC.
>>>
>>> Yesterday they announced
>>> <http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/dmsblog/index.php/2009/04/02/powerhouse-collection-documentation-goes-creative-commons/>
>>>
>>> they were going one step further. In an Australian (and possibly world)
>>> first, they’ve released all of their collection documentation under CC.
>>> From now on, all the online descriptions of their objects will by under
>>> CC Attribution-Noncommercial
>>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/au/>, while the mainly
>>> factual data about each object will be under CC Attribution-ShareAlike
>>> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/au/>.
>>>
>>> This will make the material much more usable by the general public, and
>>> will clear up some uncertainty about how such simple materials can be
>>> used.
>>>
>>> Read more about it here: http://creativecommons.org.au/node/225
>>>
>>> Congratulations PHM. You can continue to be an example for us all.
>>>
>>> Jessica Coates
>>> Project Manager
>>> Creative Commons Clinic
>>> Queensland University of Technology
>>>
>>> ph: 07 3138 8301
>>> fax: 07 3138 9395
>>> email: j2.coates at qut.edu.au
>>>
>>>
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