[cc-community] CC cosolidating property rights? [was: German Federal State announces economic stimulus package aimed at IT industry and at enriching Public Domain]
Peter Troxler
peter at waag.org
Thu Apr 2 13:00:47 EDT 2009
Dear mp, dear list
I've come across the arguments of CC "consolidat[ing] property rights"
and all that a few times.
And I'm left wondering what the real point behind this argument would
be:
-- is it that CC is not going far enough in rejecting copyright in the
first place?
-- is it a secretly reactionary stance -- "you CC guys make
implementing copyright so much more difficult"?
-- is it a sign of disapproval of the IP/copyright/TRIPS agreements
that have been introduced typically decades ago?
-- is it sheer ignorance of these (TRIPS etc.) processes?
-- or is it something completely diffferent which I fail to see in my
limited world view?
any views on this: welcome
/ Peter
On 2 apr 2009, at 12:51, mp wrote:
> (...)
>
> Of course, the view forward obscures the future by consolidating the
> status quo, and as such the potential for change has been swallowed up
> by representation in a variety of formats, particularly those seeking
> reforms and acting nicely - Walter Benjamin said:
>
> “Social Democracy thought fit to to assign to the working class the
> role
> of the redeemer of future generations, in this way cutting the
> sinews of
> its greatest strength. This training made the working class forget
> both
> its hatred and its spirit of sacrifice, for both are nourished by the
> image of enslaved ancestors rather than that of liberated
> grandchildren”
>
> So rather than change being an object of fear, change (called
> progress)
> is a manner of manipulation to avoid any real change.
>
> And this Creative Commons should take note of - there is a real danger
> that CC is a way to consolidate property rights based thinking, such
> as
> suggested in a recent article:
>
> http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/web/the-case-for-and-against-creative-commons-527697
>
> An excerpt:
>
> Asian attitudes
>
> (...)
>
> "Nobody in Pakistan knew about copyright, copyleft or CC a decade ago.
> Even when academics knew about copyright, they just didn't deal with
> it,
> primarily because of eastern tradition and religious injunctions of
> collectivism and open literacy. CC and copyleft movements have made it
> harder, here in Pakistan at least, for poor students and educators to
> use books. Sure, they inspired academics to copyleft their work, but
> at
> the same time, they convinced them that copyright, which should never
> exist in the first place, is good. (...)
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