[cc-community] to build the commons
andrew garton
ag at apc.org.au
Thu Oct 23 19:54:51 EDT 2008
A very very brief response...
I have been writing a paper, Building the Global Information Commons,
commissioned by the Association for Progressive Communications... has had
a lot of input from various people working on commons related initiatives.
Some considerations:
1. It is very clear to me that the notion of what the commons is is mixed,
but overall, one can point to commonalities suggesting that the commons is
that which is shared by all and owned by no one.
2. The commons is NOT CC. CC is part of the commons. So too are other
forms of open licences. So too are the airwaves, water and FOSS.
3. A domain name will not build a commons.
4. Any initiative to add to what already exists ought be driven by
collective effort... I guess that is meant by the community initiative
Brianna refers to.
5. There can not be a single commons as there are regional, bio-diverse
commons with very different perspectives and values placed on the commons
from land to weavings, from native title (not an indigenous concept at
all) to the maintenance of cultural values that do not recognise ownership
nor rights as we may know them...
And finally, back to number 4... the commons is being built. Perhaps a
more coordinated approach to certain commons sectors is what is required
and, as David Bollier recognised, a further strengthening of political
processes towards stable, commons based governance alternatives are more
necessary at this time...
And to really conclude, perhaps I misunderstood the nature of the original
post so please dont take offence... I am responding in less than ideal
conditions!
-ag.
> hey brianna the idea sounds interesting. would do you envisage these
> pages on tobuildthecommons.cc as doing? explaining how allowing
> derivative work and commercial use build the commons? would this be
> restricted to just cc? i think that there is scope for including other
> "copyleft" licences that just the cc by-sa licence.
>
> i guess the issue is that a project like this is quite obviously
> making a decision about what the commons is (ie stuff that allows
> derivatives and commercial use) which i think is a bit limiting. i
> personally think that content that is available for reuse on any terms
> that is more permissive than all rights reserved is a good thing. of
> course ideally the more open the better (by or by-sa being the best).
> i try to avoid making decisions about which licences are better than
> others. there are some content owners who will never release by-sa or
> by, so i would rather see it available by-nc-sa or by-nc or even by-nc-
> nd or by-nd than nothing at all.
>
> if the point of the project is to simply promote the by-sa licence and/
> or similar licences then its a good idea. but there could be wider
> scope for it as well.
>
>
> elliott bledsoe
> project officer
>
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>
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> On 22/10/2008, at 1. 23pm, Brianna Laugher wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A thought came into my head last night as I drifted off to sleep. it
>> was a button... a url... a small campaign to encourage people to use
>> CC licenses that further free culture.
>>
>> Coming at it from a community perspective (as opposed to CC's usual
>> creator perspective), it is obvious that works that allow deriv works
>> and commercial use are more useful than those that do not. Widespread
>> use of licenses with the ShareAlike clause also create a body of works
>> that starts life free and remains free -- the commons.
>>
>> So I was imagining something like
>>
>> allowderivativeworks.tobuildthecommons.cc
>> allowcommercialuse.tobuildthecommons.cc
>> usesharealike.tobuildthecommons.cc
>> (culminating in useccbysa.tobuildthecommons.cc)
>>
>> This is kind of wordy. Alternate wordings welcome.
>>
>> Anyway I would like to do this - just pretty simple pages for each,
>> with image buttons/badges for people to put on their blogs etc, and
>> maybe a short FAQ.
>>
>> I can register the domain, host it etc, but my graphic design skills
>> are not much chop. I can tweak, but not design from scratch. Would
>> anyone be interested in partnering up to help me out with this?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Brianna
>>
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