[cc-community] AKM go against a live license

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Fri Oct 17 17:24:53 EDT 2008


On Friday 17 October 2008 17:01:03 Jamison Young wrote:
> > I think something that needs to be made perfectly clear is that no other
> > music
> > (music that needed a license) was played at that location that night,
> > (ever?)
> > live or recorded. (Is that perhaps their concern?)
>
> The space has no speakers/sound system, and the songs i create were the
> only songs that aired in that space on that night.

Ouch. Thanks for clearing things up.

> The amount of people that were at the show was about 10-12 and after i
> played a set i went down the road and performed again in a pub that pays no
> fee for live music. Yet that gig was underground. The difference was that
> this performance was advertised to the public.
>
> Here is a link to a video clip that was made on the night.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=048vxYSnqmI
>
> AKM sent me an email telling me that the only way that my songs could be
> free in any space in Austria was if I instructed ASCAP to stop collecting
> for the use of any of the tunes on all levels within the walls of Austria.

A bit nasty of them huh. They want their monopoly!

> You can read the mail i sent out to the Austrian mailing list at this
> link... http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-at/2008/000037.html
>
> consider also:: When i was not with a rights organizations, AKM kept on
> billing the spaces i played in anyway, they even lied to one venue and told
> them that i had joined OSA, the Czech rights organizations.

Sounds like it could be fraud. How do they get away with it if that is what 
they are doing?

> I aksed AKM to 
> refund the space and appologise for their mistake, yet they never did. AKM
> don't want to give the message to any live music space, that music can be
> free. Music is like hotwater and anyone that says otherwise, shall be put
> on ice.
>
> Not sure what the solution is, yet maybe this is a warning for CC, stay
> clear of all rights organizations?

I think we need a cc and cc-plus (for all licenses) friendly right 
organization. Will this have to be a new one started from scratch? Or will 
the present ones get with the program?

> They are only ever going to re-shuffle 
> things into the same thing, until they have eaten themselves to death. Is
> it worth the effort? Artists best understand the reality of a CC license
> and also the reality of the rights organizations, who is going to tell the
> artists?
>
> Jamison

all the best,

drew
who is not signed to an organization but might like to be if these things went 
with sense.



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