[cc-community] scientific publishing on the internet

Jim Baker frstprin at mninter.net
Sat May 31 21:48:22 EDT 2008


Hi Hilary,
	Thanks, this is very helpful.
	Jim

On May 22, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Hilary Spencer wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> You might want to look into using a preprint server rather than your 
> own
> website.  Terry alluded to one server, primarily used by astronomers 
> and
> physicists called ArXiv (http://www.arxiv.org).  I work on another 
> server
> which seeks to fill the same role for biologists and other life 
> scientists
> called Nature Precedings (http://precedings.nature.com).  I couldn't 
> tell
> from your note if your paper would fit within the subject scope for 
> either
> of these sites but thought I'd mention them.
>
> Many of the scientists using these services take a 2-stage approach to
> publishing.  In order to get their work rapidly "out there" and claim
> precedence, they post a preprint version of the manuscript as soon as 
> they
> are confident of their work and have a manuscript available.  They 
> will then
> usually submit the manuscript for publication with a traditional
> peer-reviewed journal, so the research receives the stamp of quality 
> that
> the community looks for.  If you take this approach, you will want to 
> check
> the policies of the journal you are hoping to publish in to make sure 
> that
> they allow posting of preprints prior to publication-- Many do, but 
> some
> will not (try searching for the journal on
> http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo.php).
>
> By using an established preprint server you are likely to reach a 
> greater
> audience with your work, which can help to avoid plagiarism--if 
> everyone
> knows that your work is by you, it should make it more difficult for 
> others
> to steal it.  The third party nature of preprint servers can also help 
> with
> claims of precedence or accusations of plagiarism.  Finally, these 
> sites are
> periodically checked for plagiarism (which is easier than checking 
> across
> the Internet since they are centralized repositories).  A recent 
> scandal
> resulted in the suspension of a number of scholars who plagiarized 
> papers
> from ArXiv:
> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7119/full/444524b.html, or 
> just
> search for "Arxiv plagiarism".
>
> On a side note, Nature Precedings uses CC-BY licenses. ArXiv uses a 
> variety
> of licenses, including CC-BY and CC-BY-NC-SA.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hilary
>
> On 5/22/08 9:29 AM, "Jim Baker" <frstprin at mninter.net> wrote:
>
>> In the interest of quickly publishing novel ideas related to
>> educational technology and educational system models, I would like to
>> put this material without peer review on my web site. What are the
>> hazards that others will plagiarize me? I realize I can place a
>> copyright notice at the bottom of the page, is that now moot on the
>> web? Is work published on the web considered potentially interesting
>> (or not) but otherwise worthless to the scientific community?
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>> James
>>
>>
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