[cc-community] Not sure does cc apply to a copy or 'original' work
Fred Benenson
fred at creativecommons.org
Sat May 31 12:58:09 EDT 2008
Yes, now I realize I should have been more specific and say ... "doesn't
seem to me that there can be multiple conflicting licenses for different
versions."
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Fred Benenson <fred.benenson at gmail.com>
wrote:
> The way I see it, a photography in differrent resolution is more or less
> the same as text in differrent font. What really makes my photography
> distinctive to another one or a random sequence of bits is all the stuff
> that's 'included' in it, like the choice of subject, the angle, choice of
> camera and the choice of moment in which it is taken.
> ---
>
>
> Though the resolution of a particular photo doesn't necessarily influence
> its creative value, it is wrong to think as a corollary to a font choice.
>
> A lower resolution photo is more akin to a textual work missing particular
> letters on random pages -- it can't be 'upconverted' to another version (in
> a different font to continue the analogy) just by flipping a bit.
>
> But to the extent the copyright is not changed when resizing a photograph,
> it doesn't seem to me that there can be multiple licenses for different
> versions.
>
> But this doesn't prevent you from selling access to the large resolution
> version licensed under CC, it just means you have to give it to the buyer
> under the terms of the license.
>
> IANAL,
>
> F
>
>
>
>
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> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:36 PM, <<shell_layer-creativecommons at yahoo.com.au>
> shell_layer-creativecommons at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Bane.
>>
>> Anyone feel free to correct me, but as I understand it, the CC
>> licence only applies to the lower-quality version. You don't attach a
>> licence to all copies of the work, you attach it to one copy (in this
>> case, the lower quality one).
>>
>> It would be perfectly reasonable to, eg, release low-quality photos
>> under a CC licence (probably a noncommercial one), then charge money
>> for high-quality copies. So, obviously the high-quality copies don't
>> automatically get CC-licensed. Search for 'CCplus' on the Creative
>> Commons site, and it's clear that different copies of material can
>> have different permissions attached.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> --- Branislav Nakic < <rudlavibizon at gmail.com>rudlavibizon at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > I had a discussion with a friend the other night about cc and found
>> > out that
>> > there are a few things we don't get from the cc faq and which
>> > concerns the
>> > quality of the material we make available under a cc license . Here
>> > is the
>> > example followed by our question:
>> >
>> > Let's say I license my photos with cc-by license and upload them in
>> > lower
>> > quality on flickr. Someone comes up and says he needs a higher
>> > quality copy
>> > and that he is willing to pay for it. So we make an agreement and
>> > he
>> > recieves the high quality copy.
>> >
>> > Now, we are not sure what happens later with that higher quality
>> > copy. Is it
>> > licensed also under the cc-by license so that that someone can
>> > distribute it
>> > further or does it fall only under the separate agreement?
>> > Basically we are
>> > not sure what we are licensing, the copy which is in this case only
>> > recognisable by its resolution, jpeg compression, meta data etc.
>> > or the
>> > actual photo taken at 'that' place at 'that' time by 'that' person.
>> > What if
>> > the guy who got the high quality copy gives it to someone else
>> > (lower
>> > quality still being licenced under cc-by) who scales it down or
>> > change it so
>> > much that it is difficult to determine the source of the photo?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Bane
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Fred Benenson
Cultural Program Associate, New York
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