[cc-community] Not sure does cc apply to a copy or 'original' work

Fred Benenson fred.benenson at gmail.com
Sat May 31 09:48:51 EDT 2008


  The way I see it, a photography in differrent resolution is more or  
less the same as text in differrent font. What really makes my  
photography distinctive to another one or a random sequence of bits is  
all the stuff that's 'included' in it, like the choice of subject, the  
angle, choice of camera and the choice of moment in which it is taken.
---


  Though the resolution of a particular photo doesn't necessarily  
influence its creative value, it is wrong to think as a corollary to a  
font choice.

A lower resolution photo is more akin to a textual work missing  
particular letters on random pages -- it can't be 'upconverted' to  
another version (in a different font to continue the analogy) just by  
flipping a bit.

But to the extent the copyright is not changed when resizing a  
photograph, it doesn't seem to me that there can be multiple licenses  
for different versions.

But this doesn't prevent you from selling access to the large  
resolution version licensed under CC, it just means you have to give  
it to the buyer under the terms of the license.

IANAL,

F




>
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 1:36 PM, <shell_layer-creativecommons at yahoo.com.au 
> > wrote:
> Hi, Bane.
>
> Anyone feel free to correct me, but as I understand it, the CC
> licence only applies to the lower-quality version. You don't attach a
> licence to all copies of the work, you attach it to one copy (in this
> case, the lower quality one).
>
> It would be perfectly reasonable to, eg, release low-quality photos
> under a CC licence (probably a noncommercial one), then charge money
> for high-quality copies. So, obviously the high-quality copies don't
> automatically get CC-licensed. Search for 'CCplus' on the Creative
> Commons site, and it's clear that different copies of material can
> have different permissions attached.
>
> Carl
>
> --- Branislav Nakic <rudlavibizon at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I had a discussion with a friend the other night about cc and found
> > out that
> > there are a few things we don't get from the cc faq and which
> > concerns the
> > quality of the material we make available under a cc license . Here
> > is the
> > example followed by our question:
> >
> > Let's say I license my photos with cc-by license and upload them in
> > lower
> > quality on flickr. Someone comes up and says he needs a higher
> > quality copy
> > and that he is willing to pay for it. So we make an agreement and
> > he
> > recieves the high quality copy.
> >
> > Now, we are not sure what happens later with that higher quality
> > copy. Is it
> > licensed also under the cc-by license so that that someone can
> > distribute it
> > further or does it fall only under the separate agreement?
> > Basically we are
> > not sure what we are licensing, the copy which is in this case only
> > recognisable by its resolution, jpeg compression, meta data etc.
> > or the
> > actual photo taken at 'that' place at 'that' time by 'that' person.
> > What if
> > the guy who got the high quality copy gives it to someone else
> > (lower
> > quality still being licenced under cc-by) who scales it down or
> > change it so
> > much that it is difficult to determine the source of the photo?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bane
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