[cc-community] anarchist take on copyright and CC

Matthew J. Agnello matt.agnello at gmail.com
Fri Mar 28 16:40:38 EDT 2008


> Matthew J. Agnello wrote:
>> The joke is an anarchist taking the paper to court over commercial  
>> use,
>> and the company pointing to the latter part of the license and  
>> saying,
>> "We don't respect the author's IP claim, so this is free for us."
>>
>
> That isn't what the thing says. read more carefully.

Sorry, I was unclear. Let me clarify. (Although this is probably  
getting too deep into the joke.)

drew Roberts wrote:
> Both you and Terry made this point.
>
> But actually, it does apply to you as much as to someone who cares  
> about it
> and breaks it anyway, on purpose or out of ignorance. It applies to  
> you when
> you get caught up. At that point, it hardly matters what you believe  
> on the
> matter.

The paper's copyright claims that for those who respect copyright, use  
CC-NY-NC-SA, and for those who don't, copy as you like. The intended  
joke is that you don't even need to give permission to someone who  
doesn't obey copyright to begin with. Drew's point is that you can  
pretend all you want that copyright law doesn't apply -- until you get  
taken to court over it. My counterpoint is that if you take a company  
to court over using this paper commercially, you might get a funny  
case, because the judge might have to accept that the paper is dual  
licensed -- one for those who respect copyright, and one for those who  
don't -- and that the defending company can just claim they don't  
respect the paper's license, as they obviously didn't if they used it  
commercially, and therefore are bound by the second, totally free  
license.

Hopefully that makes me point a bit clearer.

// Matt

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Matt Agnello
http://www.hungryfilmmaker.com
< matt.agnello at gmail.com >





On Mar 28, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Lloyd wrote:

> Matthew J. Agnello wrote:
>> The joke is an anarchist taking the paper to court over commercial  
>> use,
>> and the company pointing to the latter part of the license and  
>> saying,
>> "We don't respect the author's IP claim, so this is free for us."
>>
>
> That isn't what the thing says. read more carefully.
>
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