[cc-community] Declaration of CC and copyright on the same website
Timothy Vollmer
tvollmer at umich.edu
Fri Mar 21 10:10:27 EDT 2008
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:04 AM, drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com> wrote:
> On Friday 21 March 2008 09:43:55 Gruber Lukáš wrote:
> > Hello to all,
> >
> > I have been subscribed to this list for quite long time and it finally
> > comes the time to ask you for advise. Just short personal introduction
> > before : I´m working in Web Archiving project of the National Library of
> > the Czech Republic and as a part of my duties I sometimes deal with
> issues
> > concerning to cc licences on the "czech" websites. Czech copyright law
> > accepts open-source licences (including CC) as a tool for licencing work
> > since summer 2006. We didnt oficially translate CC licence so far, so we
> > use version unported 3.0...
> >
> > And here´s the problem :-) What does it mean if the same website
> contains
> > CC (BY-NC-ND) licence and also symbol for copyright ((c) 2003-2008 plus
> > name of the author)?. What does it say to user? Is he allowed to use
> > content of website according to CC licence (some right reserved) or is
> he
> > constrained to keep the "full copyright" (all rights reserved)?
> >
> > I will try to express myself more concretely... If I followed this
> BY-NC-ND
> > licence, I would be free of making copies of the work and use it with
> > proper attribution in non-comercial way... But If I followed the
> copyright
> > declaration, I would have to ask author for permission to do so... Is
> that
> > right?
>
> I don't think so. The gpl howto might make this a bit clearer.
>
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html
>
> "Whichever license you plan to use, the process involves adding two
> elements
> to each source file of your program: a copyright notice (such as
> "Copyright
> 1999 Terry Jones"), and a statement of copying permission, saying that the
> program is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License
> (or
> the Lesser GPL)."
>
> So, you have a statement of your copyright, and then a license grant for
> the
> copyrighted work.
>
> Unless I am wrong of course. But that's how I would initially approach
> things.
> Let's see what others have to say on the issue.
Lukas--we can see how the marks for both "((c) 2003-2008 plus name of the
author)" and "CC BY-NC-ND" might be confusing, but they are not mutually
exclusive. Authors retain the copyright in the work, so that mark is
appropriate. Creative Commons offers a *license* that tells others how they
may use the work, so that mark is appropriate when applied.
So, agreeing with drew--we have a (1) copyright notice and (2) license
notice
ianal, but this is how it looks to me.
tvol
>
> >
> > So in the end, my question is: How should user act in this case? Did you
> > ever see websites like this one, containing both C and CC declarations?
> >
> > Thanks a lot for any answer
> >
> > Lukas Gruber
> > ===================================
> > Electronic Online Resources Dept.
> > The National library of the Czech Republic
>
> all the best,
>
> drew
>
>
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