[cc-community] my problem with Free Beer
John Hendrik Weitzmann
jhweitzmann at mx.uni-saarland.de
Sun Mar 9 17:00:06 EDT 2008
I think the tongue-in-cheek should end where the regular non-lawyer gets
mislead, i.e. "... published under a Creative Commons
(Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5) license, which means that anyone can use
the recipe to brew their own FREE BEER or create a derivative of the
recipe".
That's not thanks to the CC license, so the assertion is IMHO plainly
misleading.
Instead they should say something like "you can brew the stuff and
modify the recipe freely, but if you want to market the resulting beer
under the FREE BEER brand and logo, stick to the CC license". This way
they could show two things at work: Public domain and free licensing.
...
greetz from Berlin,
John
Fred Benenson schrieb:
> My understanding is that the art and surrounding materials (photos, how
> to) are meant to be free as in speech as well, but it's also more of a
> tongue-in-cheek name for a beer.
>
> F
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Robert Atwood <lists at atwood.org.uk
> <mailto:lists at atwood.org.uk>> wrote:
>
> From what the OP wrote it also sounds like they imply that the
> copyright protection and therefore the licensicg condition somehow
> covers the actual beeer ! I dont see hw that could be true?
>
>
>
> Matthew J. Agnello wrote:
> > The text of recipes have copyright protection under US law, but the
> > ideas behind that text (ingredients and steps) are not protected.
> > Therefore, someone rewriting the recipe would not be making a
> derivative
> > work. Weitzmann's problem stems from the fact that it confuses a
> general
> > audience to license a recipe under CC BY-SA because it implies someone
> > writing the same recipe a different way would also have to license
> their
> > work BY-SA, which isn't so.
> >
> > // Matt
> >
> > ----------
> > Matt Agnello
> > http://www.hungryfilmmaker.com
> > < matt.agnello at gmail.com <mailto:matt.agnello at gmail.com> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 1, 2008, at 12:23 PM, jonathon wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 8:08 PM, John Hendrik Weitzmann wrote:
> >>
> >>> The list of steps for brewing + the list of ingredients is simply
> >>> not protected by any law (does anyone know of jurisdictions where
> >>> this doesn't apply?).
> >>
> >> The Dutch Copyright Act of 1912 Auterswet 1912 Article 10 (1) implies
> >> that recipes have copyright protection.
> >>
> >> xan
> >>
> >> jonathon
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