[cc-community] Trentz Reznor / Nine Inch Nails releases 36 tracksalbum using CC

Matthew J. Agnello matt.agnello at gmail.com
Mon Mar 3 22:51:53 EST 2008


The first full-album torrent I sent didn't seem very healthy. This one  
is much more active.

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4059246/Nine_Inch_Nails_-_Ghosts_I-IV_2008_320kbps_And_Extras

Best,
// Matt


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Matt Agnello
http://www.hungryfilmmaker.com
< matt.agnello at gmail.com >





On Mar 3, 2008, at 7:30 PM, Giorgos Cheliotis wrote:

> Yes, saw that, and was about to post to the list. Though it looks  
> like great news, I was confused about something: they say that the  
> first 9 tracks are available for free and in a DRM-free format. Yet  
> they also state that ALL 36 tracks are licensed under CC BY-NC-SA:
>
> "Ghosts I-IV is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Non- 
> Commercial Share Alike license <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/ 
> > . "
>
> So, it looks like all tracks are licensed under a CC license which  
> allows for free non-commercial copying, but from their site you can  
> only get a copy of the first 9 tracks for free. For the rest, you  
> need to pay, even if your use is going to be non-commercial. I  
> thought about this a bit, and my first reaction was to question  
> whether Trent Reznor understands the implications of the license,  
> but I find that, after all, this is going to be an interesting  
> experiment in combining commercial distribution with CC licensing.  
> It's also different from Radiohead's In Raindows, as Trent Reznor  
> does not give you an option to download the entire album for free  
> from the official site, he is just giving you the option to post all  
> of the tracks online after you purchase them, for others to download  
> for free. It would be interesting to compare the primary  
> (commercial) versus the secondary (non-commercial) market. And of  
> course, I can already see some remix competitions coming up!
>
> By the way, the Ghosts site is mostly down and out. Same story with  
> the In Rainbows album, I couldn't access it for a while, and now  
> they don't provide the downloads any more. Are these examples of  
> well-known musicians experimenting with new distribution models but  
> then actually not having the means, or not wanting to make it easy  
> for consumers to download their music for free? Let's face it,  
> centralized distribution costs money, and this money needs to come  
> from somewhere. Both Radiohead and NIN seem to still rely a lot on  
> selling recorded music. Concerts, licensing fees and merchandise  
> probably isn't enough.
>
> Also, has anyone listened to this album? I hope it is not again a  
> bunch of recycled and tired ideas, like most of what has come out  
> lately under the NIN label (I hope nobody flames me for saying that :)
>
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> Subject: [cc-community] Trentz Reznor / Nine Inch Nails releases 36  
> tracksalbum using CC
>
>
>
> Hi everbody,
>
> I just heard that one of my favorite bands Nine Inch Nails has  
> released
> a 36 tracks / 4-cd album 'Ghost 1-IV' under a CC BY-NC-SA  
> license[1]. It
> has been released in four different packages:
>
> 1) $5 digital download: All 36 tracks in a variety of digital formats
> including a 40 page PDF
>
> 2) $10 2xCD set
> Ghosts I-IV on two audio CDs in a six panel digipak package with a 16
> page booklet.
>
> 3) $75 Deluxe Edition
> Ghosts I-IV in a hardcover fabric slipcase containing: 2 audio CDs, 1
> data DVD with all 36 tracks in multi-track format, and a Blu-ray disc
> with Ghosts I-IV in high-definition 96/24 stereo and accompanying  
> slideshow
>
> 4) $300 Ultra Deluxe
> Includes everything in the Deluxe Edition Package, along with an
> exclusive four-LP 180 gram vinyl set in a fabric slipcase, and two
> exclusive limited edition Giclee prints in a luxurious package.  
> Limited
> to 2500 pieces, numbered and signed by Trent Reznor.
>
> Besides these packages you can download Ghost-I for free:
>
> "The first 9 tracks from the Ghosts I-IV collection available as
> high-quality, DRM-free MP3s, including the complete PDF."
>
>
> I'm very curious about his experiences with using CC and would like to
> suggest to invite Trent Reznor for the icommons conference in Japan.
> Exciting to see well-established artists such as Nine Inch Nails
> experimenting with CC and different sales models for music.
>
> [1] http://ghosts.nin.com/main/faq
>
> All the best,
>
> grtz
> BjornW
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