[cc-community] CC+ Logo Pointing To My Own Website?

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Sat Jun 28 19:50:31 EDT 2008


On Saturday 28 June 2008 18:26:17 Michael David Crawford wrote:
> Nathan Yergler wrote:
> > but I just want to make sure you're clear on what CC+
> > expresses.  It *does not* let you impose additional restrictions on
> > the CC license.  It does let you point people to a place on the web
> > where they can obtain rights not already provided by the CC license.
>
> Yes, I understand that completely.
>
> > So, for example, if you use BY-SA for your work, people could purchase
> > the rights (or clear the use with you) if they wanted to use your work
> > without Attribution or create a derivative that wasn't Share Alike.
> > Since BY-SA already gives commercial rights, they wouldn't need to
> > clear any commercial use with you.
>
> What they'd need to clear with me is not having to ShareAlike.  Most of
> those who have already asked to use my music wouldn't have wanted that.
>
> > Perhaps you meant that you're
> > going to offer the work under BY-NC-SA and then give people permission
> > to use the work in a "not too commercial" fashion?
>
> No, I really mean to offer my work as BY-SA and not by any means NC.
> I'm a big fan of Richard Stallman and the Free Software Foundation, and
> I meant my music license to be as close to the GPL as possible - that
> means that I allow commercial use in the CC license, with no Plus
> required.  Even Richard Stallman says it's OK to sell Free Software!
>
> My CDs all have the following essay printed on one page of their case
> inserts; I expect I'll include it with the sheet music as well:
>
> Why Free Music?
> http://www.geometricvisions.com/music/manifesto/
>
> What I'd like to do is dual-license the work for uses, regardless of
> their commercial nature, where the licensee doesn't want to give up any
> right to their own work.  Given that, for "not too commercial" uses, I'm
> happy with credit and a link.  For "fully commercial" uses, I want
> credit, a link and money - and lots of it.
>
> > Apologies if I misread what you wrote, it just sounded like you've put
> > a lot of thought into how you can use a CC license to help spread your
> > work and that you're about to make a financial investment into this,
> > so I wanted to make sure this was clear.
>
> I appreciate your effort on my behalf.  But maybe my usage of CC+ is
> improper, and may not have been anticipated by the folks that created CC+.

If they didn't, that was a mistake on their part from my point of view.
>
> At the bottom of the sample "Plus" graphic, it says "COMMERCIAL
> LICENSE".  Given that I already grant a commercial license to everyone
> with the BY-SA and without any need for the Plus, what would be better
> wording to use at the bottom of my Plus graphic?  "LICENSE EXCEPTION"
> seems too arcane.

How about "CUSTOM COMMERCIAL LICENSE"???
>
> Ever Faithful,
>
> Michael David Crawford
> michael at geometricvisions.com
> http://www.geometricvisions.com/
>
>     Tilting at Windmills for a Better Tomorrow.

all the best,

drew
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