[cc-community] An online place to post

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Tue Jun 17 06:54:58 EDT 2008


On Monday 16 June 2008 21:57:33 Lucas Gonze wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:18 AM, jonathon <jonathon.blake at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sueing Google out of existence won't solve any problems.  Indeed, it
> > will simply make tracking down copyright violations far more difficult
> > than it currently is.
> >
> > Anybody who thinks that YouTube is hard to police for copyright
> > violations, hasn't tried to track copyright violations on the
> > Internet.
>
> The cc community has common cause with the labels on this issue.
>
> A huge problem for CC is that there's no immediate need for a legal
> way to do things in most user's eyes.

Think about this statement from a democratic perspective... Perhaps these 
things should not be illegal in the first place? When the laws on the books 
of a supposed democracy make a large majority of their citizens un-convicted 
felons, something is out of whack...

> Getting sued for unauthorized 
> distribution is so unlikely that people don't care whether they have
> permission, and so the benefit of a permissive license is moot.

Well, I care and it changes my behaviour, but perhaps I am more cautious than 
most in this area.
>
> This is similar to the situation with the mp3 patents, which aren't
> enforced aggressively enough to make the value of patent-free media
> formats apparent.

Perhaps they know better.. Perhaps they don't want to stir up support for 
having software patents done away with?
>
> If it was possible to automatically generate enough DMCA takedown
> requests to meet the labels' needs, permissively licensed media would
> be in much better position.

Despite this possible benefit, I would not like to see it unless... There were 
similar draconian penalties for getting a takedown notice wrong. Say a 
$30,000.00 fine and 5 years in jail for each one you get wrong. (Similar 
penalties to what we have here for possession of a knockoff CD or DVD if I 
get our shining new and improved laws.)

Now, we are reduced to pretty much the same problem but in different clothes. 
How do you get the ones you should without the damage of false positives?

all the best,

drew


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