[cc-community] Translating CC name
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Wed Feb 20 09:54:09 EST 2008
*There is also the problem of what the legal concept of the "commons" is in
different jurisdictions with the same language. In Spain an acceptable
translation of the term "commons" is "el procomún". Here, "una comuna" means
something totally different.
Yes, legal concepts are different.
CTTOI "procomún" does not explain what CC licenses are. You know, "procomún"
originally means "of public utility", like things no one owns but the whole
community (e.g. a city park). Only one of the CC options fits in that
definition: PD, which actually is not a CC License (also it was there before
CC). In fact, CCls are restrictions to prevent works from reaching PD, even
the least restrictive BY is. As soon as one claims something as BY,
particular ownership is being recognized as well. Distribution, derviation
and commercial rights can be given away, but the work is still somebody's.
Thats why at least in Spanish the legal definitions of "bienes comunes" or
"procomún" have little to do with Creative Commons.
I know what "comuna" means in America and Spain, and one of its meanings I
think it provides a more accurate idea of what Creative Commons is: a
boundless "comuna" of people who remove some restrictions from their works
to make sharing easier and promote creativity while keeping ownership in the
form of attribution.
Now this is not a translation but a creative interpretation so again you're
On Feb 20, 2008 3:32 AM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
> Jon Phillips wrote:
> Ocetalo wrote:
> >> Of course I'm not talking about the name of the organization itself,
> but the
> >> name of the licenses. Here's an example with my native language,
> >> Creative Commons licenses of Creative Commons organization - licencias
> >> Comuna Creativa de la organización Creative Commons
> > part of this is a branding issue as well...its a big decision to make
> > when promoting an org, on whether to translate or not...nike in all
> > languages, or nike as the firm identity that works in multiple
> > countries...
> There is also the problem of what the legal concept of the "commons" is in
> different jurisdictions with the same language. In Spain an acceptable
> translation of the term "commons" is "el procomún". Here, "una comuna"
> something totally different.
> My two eurocents,
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