[cc-community] No Hard Copy Distribution Condition (Let's discuss)

Ocetalo zelus.et.radix at gmail.com
Fri Feb 15 12:42:05 EST 2008


 I'm having a problem reading this because it
sounds so much like the discussions I hear
when "serious" "literature" types want to look
down their noses at science fiction and the
sort of stuff I write.

(and also for all your post)

I apologize, Greg. I don't look down at sci-fi. I think it's serious and
important but *in its own way*. I probably did not use the right term (I'm
not a native speaker, you know).
Some read the whole Asimov's Foundation series and that won't make much
difference, but one only article of Chomsky will make them change their mind
or take relevant decisions for their lives, such as voting certain way,
supporting certain law projects, etc. Hobbes' Leviathan and Machiavelli's
The Prince are used to prepare rulers so they certainly have an influence on
the life of thousands. You can't fairly compare Cordwainer's IOM to Mao's
Red Book, you know, many were willing to rise in arms and make revolution by
Red Book, but few would do the same by IOM. More people model their lives on
the Bible than on Herbert's Dune. That's what I meant by "serious", which is
not excluding other kinds of seriousness.

If you read from my first post, you can see I'm not talking about my own
work (which is not that serious), just giving an example of CC and moral
rights regarding protection against misuse.

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Greg London <email at greglondon.com> wrote:

>
> >> CC is fine for blogs, posts, "easy" expression,
> >> but any work deemed as serious stuff ...
> >> CC is not recommended.
>
> I'm having a problem reading this because it
> sounds so much like the discussions I hear
> when "serious" "literature" types want to look
> down their noses at science fiction and the
> sort of stuff I write.
>
> Generally speaking, I've found people who think
> of their works as "serious" as the sorts of folks
> who think that the world should all view their
> works a certain way (good) and all other works
> another way (bad).
>
> These same people tend to have rather monopolistic
> views of how their works are presented, how the
> characters behave, how the words form a sentence,
> and so on. They almost universally frown upon stuff
> like fan fiction and other people creating their
> own derivatives of their "serious" work, because
> they generally don't view the derivatives as quite
> serious enough.
>
> Which is to say, if you *seriously* think that your
> writing is that serious, then you aren't interested
> in what your audience can do for you. CC licenses
> really are about what your audience can do for you
> if you're willing to let them.
>
> Give your audience non commercial rights and they'll
> do fan fiction for you. Give them ShareAlike rights
> and they'll adapt and improve it for you.
>
> All of which is quite simply anything but "serious".
>
> If you take your writing that seriously that you can't
> release any rights to your audience and give them the
> power to do something for themselves that might also
> benefit the work, then you're not talking about anything
> that has anything to do with a Creative Commons license.
>
>
>
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