[cc-community] No Hard Copy Distribution Condition (Let's discuss)
drew Roberts
zotz at 100jamz.com
Fri Feb 8 13:29:46 EST 2008
On Friday 08 February 2008 12:03:15 Ocetalo wrote:
> *This bit is not so according to some of the CC guidelines. With those, if
> it
> is a for profit entity, they would not be able to make any copies of the
> work
> at all, digital or paper.
> *
> What if a profit entity uses the works for non-profit purposes?
The CC guidelines* say NO, at least they used to. The MIT guidelines say YES.
Perhaps only proposed. There was a flowchart or something like that kicking
around as well.
all the best,
drew
>
> On Feb 8, 2008 11:12 AM, drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com> wrote:
> > On Friday 08 February 2008 10:57, Ocetalo wrote:
> > > Didn't know that. Probably it's the same in my country.
> > > In fact, I don't exactly want to prevent common people from printing CC
> > > licensed work for personal use or friendly share (let's call it "home
> > > printing"), but established organizations, no matter their nature or
> > > purpose, from printing and/or including my work in a "serious" edition
> >
> > with
> >
> > > cover and all the stuff, be it gratis or not. Why? Maybe I'm not OK
> > > with the use they'll give it. If I just go with current CC licenses,
> > > let's
> >
> > say
> >
> > > NC, they'll be free to use as please as long as they distribute for
> >
> > gratis,
> >
> > This bit is not so according to some of the CC guidelines. With those, if
> > it
> > is a for profit entity, they would not be able to make any copies of the
> > work
> > at all, digital or paper.
> >
> > > and later when I notice I'll be hands-tied. Therefore I want those to
> >
> > ask
> >
> > > permission prior to publication. Is that possible? What do you think?
> > >
> > > About CC+, I guess it's intended for providing more permissions, isn't
> >
> > it?
> >
> > > But what I want is to the right of the spectrum. How could it help me?
> > >
> > > On Feb 8, 2008 3:17 AM, Karl Ebener <myonlyb at vollbio.de> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > > I'm suggesting a new condition to apply on works, which eventually
> >
> > can
> >
> > > > > lead to a new CC license: allowing free distribution of one's
> > > > > works, as long as those remain intangible. Printing, displaying or
> > > > > distributing hard copies on paper or any other non-digital medium
> > > > > is not allowed without the express permision of the author.
> > > >
> > > > Where are you from? AFAIK in Germany, you cannot prevent printing
> > > > legally (just practically e.g. by disabling it in PDF), since prints
> >
> > may
> >
> > > > not be made because of permission of the author but because of
> > > > provisions in copyright law.
> > > >
> > > > It is possible that CC+ can help you, so that no new (well, although
> >
> > CC+
> >
> > > > is new) CC-license is needed...
> > > >
> > > > Yours
> > > > Karl
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > drew
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