[cc-community] Contradictory meanings of "non-commercial"?

Terry Hancock hancock at anansispaceworks.com
Fri Feb 8 03:02:59 EST 2008


rob at robmyers.org wrote:
> Quoting Terry Hancock <hancock at anansispaceworks.com>:
>>IMHO, those last two would be abuses of NC licensing (I don't know what
>>the "76 ball case" is). The problem wasn't "commercial use", it was use
>>of someone's likeness without permission. The CC licenses expressly do
>>not confer rights to likenesses, and so the users should've known they
>>didn't have those kinds of rights.
> 
> NC is the solution, now what's the problem? ;-)
>
> To put the issue in context; if a not-for-profit charity had made the  
> poster for use non-commercially the issue of personality rights would  
> still be the same regardless of NC.

Right. More proof that NC wasn't really the issue.

It's more-or-less a coincidence that NC terms would've stopped the
Virgin case -- it just so happens that their use both was commercial
*and* violated publicity rights, there's no real correlation between the
two facts.

Fred Beneson wrote:
> See : http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/autoweek_on_come_on.html
> and
> http://lessig.org/blog/2006/09/update_on_autoweek.html

Note that this article says that NC was in fact used for the "76 ball
case", so that's a red herring. The issue here was blatant infringement
(and conflation of *all* CC licensing with "public domain").

Unfortunately, in that case, neither a publicity release nor the NC nor
any terms at all would've solved the problem. This is a question of
enforcement, not license terms.

Cheers,
Terry

-- 
Terry Hancock (hancock at AnansiSpaceworks.com)
Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com




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