[cc-community] Copyright enforcement and CC BY-NC licenses
drew Roberts
zotz at 100jamz.com
Sat Aug 2 17:42:12 EDT 2008
On Saturday 02 August 2008 16:28:12 jonathon wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:44, drew Roberts wrote:
> >Or, if not, why do you imagine the bookeeping expenses would be so great.
>
> For "proportional payments" the base payments are higher than for a
> "blanket payment". Whilst the theory is that 'proportional payments"
> will result in a lower payment to the collection society, the cost of
> administration usually exceeds the amount that it allegedly saves.
>
> > It would be a simple report pulled from your playout database if done
> > right surely...
>
> That assumes a degree of organization that live bands usually lack.
> It also assumes an atypical degree of willingness to share sources by DJs.
Ah, ok, you are thinking bands and I am thinking broadcast radio.
>
> You pretty much have to pay somebody to notate each song, with
> starting time, and duration of the piece.
>
> > If the blanket payments are really so low, why all the non-compliance
> > issues in so many countries and so many situations?
>
> "Low" is a relative term.
>
> The collection societies typically assume that the organization
> providing the music is generating revenue through the sale of
> cigarettes, alcohol, and similar items, pricing their accordingly.
So, is say a bar has a live band some night and does as you suggest, who pay
the fees? the bar, the band, or both?
>
> It is much easier for a venue that charges a US$25 cover charge, and
> sells US$25K of alcohol in one night, to pay the collection society
> fees, than for a bookstore that has "folk music night", that is
> gratis, and only sells books, of a coffee bar that offers gratis live
> music, and does not sell alcohol.
Does any have figures for real word fee structures?
>
> xan
>
> jonathon
all the best,
drew
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