[cc-community] selling CC-BY-NC-ND

Kevin Phillips (home) tacet at qmpublishing.com
Sat Apr 26 19:51:04 EDT 2008


I could be way off, but the way I read the guidline you quoted, if an 
individual, educational institution or nonprofit offers up cc materials in 
the manner in which you describe - verbatim and without attached conditions 
ie. a price tag or compulsory fee of some other kind - then it's non 
commercial and allowed.

I think the packaging of the files in any of these cases would need to be 
considered.  I wonder what would be acceptable as a means of packaging?  For 
instance, would it be ok to provide a zip file which contained all the 
content/songs/clips in your chosen order? ...but presumably not a re-stream 
of the audio because of meta-data loss.

The whole point is that you're not selling the cc materials themselves, 
you're selling the service of bringing them together.....

I currently have in my head an example of "an individual" who compiles 
mixtape-style selections of their favourite cc songs (for which they do not 
own the copyright), she has a nice blog which weekly offers up a new remix 
of undiscovered artists and interesting songs which segue well together. 
She has a tip jar on her site so that folks downloading the mix 
list/suggestions might persuade her to do more digging around for 
interesting stuff, she writes interesting reviews and before long theres a 
little community offering feedback and a few bucks for bandwidth.  Sigh...if 
only this would happen more, as discovery is one of the hardest parts of the 
Creative Commons Musician HowTo puzzle.

I think a lot of "individuals" who may have the drive and interest to do 
something like this may not understand that it's allowed.....that's if it 
is.  I'm putting it out here as an example of the way I'm understanding this 
half expecting one of the guys here to slam on the brakes, they so love to 
spoil a good party, lol ;)

On a side note, many of the websites which offer cc music and still carry 
ads etc do so via a special arrangement/license with the artists, I'm 
thinking of sites like Kompoz and Jamendo.....this could be another option 
for you, though it's a bit of a bind.

Kevin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Sparks" <tom_a_sparks at yahoo.com.au>
To: <cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [cc-community] selling CC-BY-NC-ND


update:
I am using the Collective Work Definition
I am a Nonprofit organization
You can get the media (videos/sound/etc) of my website
for free (the CC
media anyway)

Can it still be an optional contribution if you get
some thing in
return?

under DraftNonCommercial Guidelines
(
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/DiscussionDraftNonCommercial_Guidelines
)

"D. Conditions on Use: Original work
(d) As an optional contribution (e.g. a tip jar,
donations, membership
drive) for an individual, an educational institution
or nonprofit
organization that uses the verbatim NC-licensed work
or another work
that includes a verbatim NC-licensed work â?" this is
a noncommercial
use."



On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 07:00 -0500, Terry Hancock
wrote:
> Tom Sparks wrote:
> >     I am looking at selling CC-BY-NC-ND by
> > * cost of media only
> > * compilation time (including interface)
> > * number of hours
>
> Selling is a "commercial use".
>
> It doesn't mean "non-profit" use.
>
> So, no.
>
> Terry
>



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