[cc-community] avoiding the CC licensing path by rights users
drew Roberts
zotz at 100jamz.com
Thu Apr 17 06:39:24 EDT 2008
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 23:31:32 Fred Benenson wrote:
> I'm with drew on this one. I think its' unfortunate that we have to use
> copyleft to "scare" publishers of media out of using work.
Well, I don't use BY-SA to scare people so much. I do recognize that it will
hold some back from some uses.
A legal way for a corp to "exploit" people using BY-SA would be to simply sell
unmodified copies. But perhaps even that use will scare some?
>
> Wouldn't the ideal situation be that more people (and big corporations by
> extension) use copylefted works?
Yes, if they embrace the ethos and do it right. 100%. Less so if they don't,
but if the license is up to the task, even reluctantly. Hopefully the
reluctance will fade as the benefits of a Free practice show up.
>
> F
all the best,
drew
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:51 PM, drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 16 April 2008 16:19:54 Kevin Phillips (home) wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 16 April 2008 15:35:23 Lloyd wrote:
> > > >> John Hendrik Weitzmann wrote:
> > > >> > the assumption is accurate for almost all larger business bodies,
> > > >> > I
> > > >>
> > > >> used
> > > >>
> > > >> > the word "usually", didn't suggest that it's going to stay this
> > > >> > way
> > > >>
> > > >> for
> > > >>
> > > >> > all eternity and am not being purposely vague here in any way.
> > > >>
> > > >> I somehow feel that if someone licenses a BY-SA piece of work that
> >
> > gets
> >
> > > >> incorporated into some advert for megacorp, that megacorp isn't
> > > >> going
> >
> > to
> >
> > > >> be too worried about people redistributing their advert.
> > > >
> > > > They might not mind ND redistribution of hte ad, but I would figure a
> >
> > lot
> >
> > > > will
> > > > have issues with repurposing the ad...
> > > >
> > > > Your thoughts?
> > >
> > > Especially if the redistribution is a parody remix, and becomes more
> > > popular than their original and thus distorts their intended message.
> > >
> > > It's an interesting thing to speculate about, personally I think the
> >
> > Sony
> >
> > > example (on the wiki re: Blue Ray assets) is more likely a target-space
> > > for corporates, allowing them to provide example support materials for
> > > their hardware/products, whilst appearing all community-supportive in
> >
> > the
> >
> > > process.
> >
> > OK, but right now, getting some types to "legitimize" a Free and copyleft
> > license and what goes with it as opposed to telling what a cancer it is
> > might
> > be a good first step.
> >
> > We shall see, BY-Sa materials are showing up out in the wild more and
> > more, I
> > haven't seen too much BY-SA use by anyone big yet. (Specifically big corp
> > big.)
> >
> > Does anyone know different.
> >
> > > hmmm...
> > >
> > > Kev
> >
> > all the best,
> >
> > drew
> >
> >
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