[cc-community] cc-community Digest, Vol 41, Issue 30

Oscar Montezuma oscar at montezuma.ws
Fri Oct 26 12:48:43 EDT 2007


Please do you have a trustful information on CC and its feasibility on the film industry?
Email me privately.
Tks,
Oscar

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: continued input for CC LiveContent v2.0 (Jon Phillips)
2. Re: input for LiveContent v2.0 (drew Roberts)
3. Re: input for LiveContent v2.0 (Fred Beneson)
4. Re: by-nd for software (Elisa Malvestio)
5. Re: by-nd for software (Tim Cowlishaw)
6. PRESS RELEASE: New Zealand Successfully Ports Creative
Commons Licenses to National Law (Michelle Thorne)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:11:36 -0700
From: Jon Phillips <jon at creativecommons.org>
Subject: Re: [cc-community] continued input for CC LiveContent v2.0
To: cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org
Cc: Jack Aboutboul <jaa at redhat.com>
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On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 18:57 +0100, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> > How to best explain Creative Commons, FOSS movement, and open content
> > Creating demos of how users can manipulate open content on the disc using
> > the free tools provided, and then also mark and share again
> 
> Check out "Red Hat High" for some possible tips on this:
> 
> http://www.redhat.com/redhathigh/
> 
> Although that particular site isn't great it might be worth getting in
> touch with someone there for info on curriculum they used...
> 
> Jon

Jack, would Redhat/fedora be interesed in including some of this on the
next LiveContent? All, Fedora has been working with us on the
livecontent disc, so its a perfect tie-in...

Jonathan, thanks for the plug...would you like to help identify this
content and/or more...like I said previously...any contributors get
plugs on this and credit!

Jon

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Please note: the contents of this email are not intended to be
legal advice nor should they be relied upon as or represented to be
legal advice. Creative Commons cannot and does not give legal advice.
You need to assess the suitability of Creative Commons' tools for
your particular situation, which may include obtaining appropriate
legal advice from a licensed attorney.



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:28:17 -0400
From: drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com>
Subject: Re: [cc-community] input for LiveContent v2.0
To: cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org
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On Wednesday 24 October 2007 19:09:48 Jon Phillips wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:07 -0400, Timothy Vollmer wrote:
> > Dear cc-community:
> >
> > Creative Commons, in conjunction with Fedora and Worldlabel.com, is
> > working on a second version of LiveContent for distribution to
> > libraries. Please see entry here:
> >
> > http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7652
> >
> > In order to create a great release that can be beneficial to libraries
> > and patrons, we're looking to identify a small number of libraries
> > that would be willing to help test out the spins. We're looking at
> > trying to get libraries from various areas of the US to participate.
> >
> > Other areas to investigate:
> > * What is the current computing environment at libraries right
> > now, especially public libraries? The first version of
> > LiveContent (Fedora, open source apps, CC-content) was
> > self-contained on a CD - is a DVD doable for library
> > terminals?
>
> Any thoughts? We've found that most use thin clients and/or old
> computers without disc drives...
>
> > * How to increase the amount of open content contained on a disc
> > - CD vs. DVD vs. thumbdrive vs. other options
>
> We have since decided to release a DVD so we can provided content
> curated by the community...if you are interested in getting your content
> on this, please do speak up!!!! Its going out to tons of ppl. and is
> great promotion...step up to the plate!

What do we need to do to explore the possibilities for this? It sounds 
interesting.

all the best,

drew


>
> > * How to best explain Creative Commons, FOSS movement, and open
> > content
>
> We are pretty good at explaining, but we need others to review...please
> do look at the following url and help us direct edit:
>
> http://creativecommons.org/projects/livecontent
>
> > * Creating demos of how users can manipulate open content on the
> > disc using the free tools provided, and then also mark and
> > share again
> > * How to automate the process of pulling down CC-content from
> > curators like Flickr, Jamendo, etc. for inclusion on the disc
>
> Yes, some of you I know are interested in this nerdy idea:
>
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Autocurated_Packages
>
> Please help us vet these ideas and/or get your name on it! Any
> contributors to this project will get full credit for contributions!
> This disc has an ISSN number and will be circulated to tons of libraries
> and put into circulation? Anyone like CV material and/or say you are a
> published author/developer?
>
> > http://creativecommons.org/projects/livecontent
> >
> > -Timothy
> >
> >
> > --
> > Timothy Vollmer
> > tim at creativecommons.org
> > cell: +1.608.698.2403





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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:23:45 -0400
From: Fred Beneson <fred.benenson at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cc-community] input for LiveContent v2.0
To: "cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: "cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <925B7704-5947-4532-BB3C-B7B17A4E90B7 at gmail.com>
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I'm interested in helping with photography... Anyone else want to 
curate with me?

F

On Oct 24, 2007, at 8:28 PM, drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday 24 October 2007 19:09:48 Jon Phillips wrote:
>> On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:07 -0400, Timothy Vollmer wrote:
>>> Dear cc-community:
>>>
>>> Creative Commons, in conjunction with Fedora and Worldlabel.com, is
>>> working on a second version of LiveContent for distribution to
>>> libraries. Please see entry here:
>>>
>>> http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7652
>>>
>>> In order to create a great release that can be beneficial to 
>>> libraries
>>> and patrons, we're looking to identify a small number of libraries
>>> that would be willing to help test out the spins. We're looking at
>>> trying to get libraries from various areas of the US to participate.
>>>
>>> Other areas to investigate:
>>> * What is the current computing environment at libraries right
>>> now, especially public libraries? The first version of
>>> LiveContent (Fedora, open source apps, CC-content) was
>>> self-contained on a CD - is a DVD doable for library
>>> terminals?
>>
>> Any thoughts? We've found that most use thin clients and/or old
>> computers without disc drives...
>>
>>> * How to increase the amount of open content contained on a 
>>> disc
>>> - CD vs. DVD vs. thumbdrive vs. other options
>>
>> We have since decided to release a DVD so we can provided content
>> curated by the community...if you are interested in getting your 
>> content
>> on this, please do speak up!!!! Its going out to tons of ppl. and is
>> great promotion...step up to the plate!
>
> What do we need to do to explore the possibilities for this? It sounds
> interesting.
>
> all the best,
>
> drew
>
>
>>
>>> * How to best explain Creative Commons, FOSS movement, and open
>>> content
>>
>> We are pretty good at explaining, but we need others to 
>> review...please
>> do look at the following url and help us direct edit:
>>
>> http://creativecommons.org/projects/livecontent
>>
>>> * Creating demos of how users can manipulate open content on 
>>> the
>>> disc using the free tools provided, and then also mark and
>>> share again
>>> * How to automate the process of pulling down CC-content from
>>> curators like Flickr, Jamendo, etc. for inclusion on the disc
>>
>> Yes, some of you I know are interested in this nerdy idea:
>>
>> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Autocurated_Packages
>>
>> Please help us vet these ideas and/or get your name on it! Any
>> contributors to this project will get full credit for contributions!
>> This disc has an ISSN number and will be circulated to tons of 
>> libraries
>> and put into circulation? Anyone like CV material and/or say you 
>> are a
>> published author/developer?
>>
>>> http://creativecommons.org/projects/livecontent
>>>
>>> -Timothy
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Timothy Vollmer
>>> tim at creativecommons.org
>>> cell: +1.608.698.2403
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:24:38 +0200
From: Elisa Malvestio <tonica.94 at hotmail.it>
Subject: Re: [cc-community] by-nd for software
To: <cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <BAY138-W115B31691DC053DE531738E950 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!io nn voglio altro nn voglio il copiright bastaaaaaaaaq!!!!!!!!!!!
avete rotoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:30:14 +0000> From: niknot at gmail.com> To: cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re: [cc-community] by-nd for software> > On 10/23/07, drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com> wrote:> >> > So, what are your thoughts on the GPL+Trademark solution. I have seen no> > response to that idea and I think it fits your stated needs very well.> > Thanks for an interesting suggestion.> > In practice, the mere letters 'GPL' are a red flag to commercial> software vendors and they generally stay away from anything> so labeled. It would be naive of us to think we can change this> behavior. To us, commercial software vendors are important> and we would like them to feel comfortable using the product.> On the other hand, establishing, promoting (and then defending)> a trademark puts additional burden on our resources.> > >From what we have learned so far (and this discussion was a> part of it - thanks all) we are leaning towards a slightly> re-worded (i.e., excluding the r
ight to modify the source) BSD> license. This solution has only one drawback: it's YASL. But if,> as a comment, we explain that this is really only BSD license> less the re-distribution of derivatives, (something that the> commercial software vendors are not likely to be interested in)> we think they might accept it.> > niknot> > p.s. One of the primary reasons why we have opted for a> "high-integrity" distribution model is that the source includes> a high degree of application domain knowledge and could> be harmed by interventions by otherwise competent> programmers who lack the appropriate level of expertize in> the application domain. I offer this as an explanation, not> justification. With that, I will not discuss further *why* we> have opted for a particular distribution model, since I> believe it would be an inappropriate waste of the list> bandwidth.> _______________________________________________> cc-community mailing list> cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org> http://lis
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:26:56 +0100
From: "Tim Cowlishaw" <tim at timcowlishaw.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [cc-community] by-nd for software
To: cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org
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Elisa!

You can remove yourself from the list by going here:
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-community

Hope this helps,

Tim

On 10/25/07, Elisa Malvestio <tonica.94 at hotmail.it> wrote:
>
> stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!io nn voglio altro nn voglio il copiright
> bastaaaaaaaaq!!!!!!!!!!!
> avete rotoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:30:14 +0000
> > From: niknot at gmail.com
> > To: cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [cc-community] by-nd for software
>
> >
> > On 10/23/07, drew Roberts <zotz at 100jamz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > So, what are your thoughts on the GPL+Trademark solution. I have seen no
> > > response to that idea and I think it fits your stated needs very well.
> >
> > Thanks for an interesting suggestion.
> >
> > In practice, the mere letters 'GPL' are a red flag to commercial
> > software vendors and they generally stay away from anything
> > so labeled. It would be naive of us to think we can change this
> > behavior. To us, commercial software vendors are important
> > and we would like them to feel comfortable using the product.
> > On the other hand, establishing, promoting (and then defending)
> > a trademark puts additional burden on our resources.
> >
> > >From what we have learned so far (and this discussion was a
> > part of it - thanks all) we are leaning towards a slightly
> > re-worded (i.e., excluding the right to modify the source) BSD
> > license. This solution has only one drawback: it's YASL. But if,
> > as a comment, we explain that this is really only BSD license
> > less the re-distribution of derivatives, (something that the
> > commercial software vendors are not likely to be interested in)
> > we think they might accept it.
> >
> > niknot
> >
> > p.s. One of the primary reasons why we have opted for a
> > "high-integrity" distribution model is that the source includes
> > a high degree of application domain knowledge and could
> > be harmed by interventions by otherwise competent
> > programmers who lack the appropriate level of expertize in
> > the application domain. I offer this as an explanation, not
> > justification. With that, I will not discuss further *why* we
> > have opted for a particular distribution model, since I
> > believe it would be an inappropriate waste of the list
> > bandwidth.
> > _______________________________________________
> > cc-community mailing list
> > cc-community at lists.ibiblio.org
> > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-community
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:01:20 +0200
From: "Michelle Thorne" <michelle at creativecommons.org>
Subject: [cc-community] PRESS RELEASE: New Zealand Successfully Ports
Creative Commons Licenses to National Law
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NEW ZEALAND SUCCESSFULLY PORTS CREATIVE COMMONS LICENSES TO NATIONAL LAW

San Francisco, CA, USA and Wellington, NZ ?? October 27, 2007

The Creative Commons licensing suite will be launched today in Wellington,
New Zealand, marking the 41th jurisdiction to successfully port the Creative
Commons licenses to national copyright law.

The Project Lead of Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand, Dr. Brian Opie,
worked alongside Susy Frankel, Andrew Matangi, and Paul Sumpter under the
auspices of Te Wh??inga Aronui The Council for the Humanities to
linguistically and legally port the Creative Commons licenses to New
Zealand's law.

The launch event will be held at the National Library in Wellington on
October 27, in conjunction with a free seminar on the new licensing
environment in the digital world and a keynote address by Dr Anne
Fitzgerald, intellectual property and e-commerce lawyer from Queensland
University of Technology's School of Law and founder of Australia's Going
Digital series.

The seminar in Wellington will also include workshops about the benefits of
Creative Commons lead by experts on license implementation in New Zealand's
cultural institutions, education, research, indigenous knowledge, and
government.

Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand "recognizes the importance of the
licenses in developing new modalities of content creation and dissemination
in a digital environment, by providing good models of content creation in
the digital humanities and encouraging infrastructure evolution appropriate
to the needs of content creators in the arts, education and the
humanities-aronui."



About The Humanities Trust of Aotearoa New Zealand
Te Wh??inga Aronui The Council for the Humanities is a charitable trust that
is leading the project to establish Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand.

The Trust Board includes among its members leaders in academic, cultural,
and public sector organizations. Its objective is to promote recognition of
the value of the humanities-aronui in the creation, conservation and
transmission of knowledge essential to personal well-being and the cultural,
social and economic development of Aotearoa New Zealand.

Te Wh??inga Aronui The Council for the Humanities is committed to recognizing
the importance of matauranga Maori as an indigenous taonga and its unique
role in establishing and supporting the contemporary strategic development
of the humanities in Aotearoa New Zealand. The Council is further committed
to facilitating the ongoing involvement by Maori scholastic communities in
achieving the mission and goals of the Council. For more information, refer
to http://www.humanities.org.nz and http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/.



About Creative Commons
Creative Commons is a not-for-profit organization, founded in 2001, that
promotes the creative re-use of intellectual and artistic works, whether
owned or in the public domain. Through its free copyright licenses, Creative
Commons offers authors, artists, scientists, and educators the choice of a
flexible range of protections and freedoms that build upon the "all rights
reserved" concept of traditional copyright to enable a voluntary "some
rights reserved" approach. Creative Commons is sustained by the generous
support of organizations including the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur
Foundation, Omidyar Network, the Hewlett Foundation, and the Rockefeller
Foundation, as well as members of the public. For more information about
Creative Commons, visit http://creativecommons.org.


Contact
Dr. Catharina Maracke
Director
Creative Commons International
catharina at creativecommons.org
Phone: +49-30-28 09 39 09

Press Kit
http://creativecommons.org/presskit
http://creativecommons.org/international/nz


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Fax: +49.30.28 09 39 10
Email: michelle at creativecommons.org
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