[cc-community] CC+?

Bodo Balazs bodo at mokk.bme.hu
Mon Oct 15 12:39:13 EDT 2007


Hello,


I've been thinking about this issue from another perspective: how can you
convince (C) holders to release their works to a limited number of users,
like a fan-club, so they can share, remix those works among themselves.

I've written a longer analysis on this topic for an EU financed research
project we do with CC members in the Netherlands and Finnland. The paper can
be read here:
http://www.warsystems.hu/?p=517

b.-



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:cc-community-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Terry Hancock
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [cc-community] CC+?

drew Roberts wrote:
> I think you completely misunderstood my point and I may have 
> misunderstood the point I responded to. I was not talking about the 
> CC+ deal underdiscussion here.

Yeah, we're talking at complete cross-purposes here. :-)

Actually, THREE separate concepts have been conflated in this little
threadlet:

1) tax-dollar financed grants for artistic works
2) collecting society systems
3) collective purchasing of public rights in a work

1 & 3 are closer to each other than is 2.

2 is "collective" in artists. 1 & 3 are collective in buyers. 1 is fully
coercive (you must pay taxes), 2 is semi-voluntary in some countries and
coercive in others (depends on the laws surrounding collecting societies),
and 3 is fully voluntary.

I was talking about 3, but omitted some specific verbage to make this clear.
Hence the "Mr. Pickypants" post. ;-)

This came up, because I was suggesting that CC+ should be compatible with
option 3 above, as well as the more common commercial rights deals that it
was probably designed for.

I think if we want to discuss this any further, we need new threads. :-)

Cheers,
Terry


--
Terry Hancock (hancock at AnansiSpaceworks.com) Anansi Spaceworks
http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com

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