[cc-community] CC+?

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Wed Oct 10 08:18:01 EDT 2007


On Wednesday 10 October 2007 03:04 am, Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 11:31 +0800, Giorgos Cheliotis wrote:
> >  Once a work is produced and published, its value can be better assessed
> >  and then an individual or a community of people can collect the funds
> >  required by the author to license the work more liberally, or to hand
> >  it to the public domain (where possible), if it is deemed that freeing
> >  the work in this manner will be of great benefit to this community or
> >  perhaps even to the world at large. I for one would be ready to
> >  support an organization set up to free cultural works in this manner.
>
> Yes, SPP and similar can be used for existing work as well as new work,
> indeed are simplified if used for the former.
>
> The emphasis in most proposals is probably on the financing of new work
> because that is the more interesting question from a social utility
> perspective.  If work exists you just have a distribution problem, which
> isn't even what (idealized anyway) copyright addresses.
>
> Paying ransom for existing works also could create bad expectations
> (from a Free perspective) for the licensing of new work, eg, would it be
> a better world if every new release of software had to be ransomed
> before it became Free Software?

Here's the thing, considering copyleft works which are hte ones I tend to 
concentrate on, this would only really be valuable for new works, once the 
remixing gets going, all of them will be Free from the break. Unless those 
licenses are somehow changes to allow for a grace "non-Free" period.
>
> Of course cultural works differ from software in many ways.  A serious
> attempt at a buy-Freedom-for-cultural-works clearinghouse would be a
> valuable experiment, one that I'd certainly support.  And it would fit
> perfectly with CC+'s super-duper-simple architecture.  Indeed, it could
> fit under the roof of a business also offering commercial licensing.

If anyone wants to take a run at such a thing. I have a decent amount of notes 
from several years ago relating to such a plan. Get in touch if you like.
>
> Terry Hancock:
> > Yes, collective financing of public goods is a fairly old idea by now,
> > though working implementations are few and not fully realized.
>
> You forgot "voluntary" before "collective", otherwise the second part of
> the sentence is clearly false. :)

Along the involuntary collective lines, I suggest that we push for all such 
financing to require Free licensing on the resulting works as a requirement 
of obtaining such funding. ~;-)

all the best,

drew


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