[cc-community] [Icommons] Boing Boing's CC licensed videocast

Jon Phillips jon at rejon.org
Tue Oct 9 21:13:06 EDT 2007


BTW, where is our plugin for cc licensing to openoffice.org at?

Jon

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 21:10 -0700, Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> It would probably be useful in some publishing workflows, though ideally
> the notice would be added natively by whatever content creation tool is
> being used, e.g. an OpenOffice plugin that makes facilitates license
> choice and reflects that choice in available autotext with some default
> placement (ie, just like page numbering) as well as in hidden metadata.
> There was some progress on this in a Summer of Code project, see
> http://techblog.creativecommons.org/category/openoffice/
> 
> Presumably an automatic stamper is going to stamp in a less than ideal
> location (and less than ideal font) for many documents, but again, it
> could be useful in some cases.
> 
> On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 16:23 +0200, John Hendrik Weitzmann wrote:
> > (sorry for cross posting)
> > 
> > We are thinking about commisioning a programmer with developing a server 
> > side application that can automatically add CC license information into 
> > the content of PDF files, not only into the metadata.
> > 
> > If people are already working on this or already have some tool up and 
> > running, we could save the money. So the question is, is that the case?
> > 
> > @Jon: Does the Marking media work you are doing cover what I mentioned 
> > above? If not so, would it be helpful for you guys to get a tool for 
> > automatic PDF content marking?
> > 
> > Greetz,
> > John (CC Germany)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jon Phillips schrieb:
> > > This seems like a good discussion to have on cc-community ;)
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 14:29 +0300, Herkko Hietanen wrote:
> > >> Alek makes a valid point!
> > >>
> > >> I tried to raise this issue at Harvard iSummit. I think it was the Brazilian
> > >> team who had a video of Gil playing John Lennon's Imagine. They said that
> > >> the performance was CC licensed. The point is that even if the performance
> > >> is licensed, the underlying song is not. Thus if someone distributes it
> > >> without the consent of Lennon's family they are infringers.
> > >>
> > >> I have not seen BoingBoings video, but if the robot segment is consider a
> > >> quote it should be ok to license it at least with no derivatives license. A
> > >> derivative license would enable licensees to cut the robot piece out and do
> > >> whatever they want to which is something that licensor doesn't have a power
> > >> to do. Using a ND license would keep intact the original use of quoting. 
> > >>
> > >> Herkko
> > >> cc-fi
> > > 
> > > One thing which CC worked on over the summer is to create Marking media
> > > which can be put at the beginning of a film, audio file, etc, which
> > > marks the CC license used...
> > > 
> > > http://creativecommons.org/projects/marking
> > > 
> > > (video markers/bumpers)
> > > http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC_video_bumpers
> > > 
> > > We are hoping to factor this work into various parts of the CC site,
> > > license chooser updates, etc...but some way to build on this would be
> > > great...
> > > 
> > > Jon
> > > 
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: icommons-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:icommons-
> > >>>> bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Alek Tarkowski
> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:51 PM
> > >>>> To: icommons at lists.ibiblio.org
> > >>>> Subject: [Icommons] Boing Boing's CC licensed videocast
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I've just read about the new CC-licensed Boing Boing TV, which made me
> > >>>> think of best practices regarding CC licensing.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The thing is, the video is made up of multiple segments, to which the
> > >>>> rights lie either with Boing Boing creators, or with someone else. Some
> > >>>> are public domain, some are not. There is for instance a video of a
> > >>>> robot playing "Crazy", a song written by Willie Nelson - and some
> > >>>> mention in the video's comments, that due credit was not given in the
> > >>>> video itself due to an ommission.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> While I am sure that Boing Boing got the legal side of things right, I
> > >>>> think it might be confusing for viewers to read that the whole work is
> > >>>> CC-licensed. So I'm thinking what the best practice would be - list
> > >>>> every element with its copyright status description?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This might, unfortunately, quickly become very tedious - but do we have
> > >>>> a choice?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> alek.
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> koordynator / public lead
> > >>>> Creative Commons Polska / Poland
> > >>>> http://creativecommons.pl
> > >>>> skype: alektarkowski
> > >>>>
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