[cc-community] 10k great Free songs (was Re: Rcrd Lbl to offer CC and Free as in Beer Music)

Jon Phillips jon at creativecommons.org
Mon Nov 19 16:56:51 EST 2007


On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 13:18 -0500, Elizabeth Stark wrote:
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> On Nov 19, 2007 1:09 PM, Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com> wrote:
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>         Elizabeth Stark wrote:
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>         > On Nov 18, 2007 8:43 PM, Christopher Budnick
>         <cbudnick at gmail.com
>         
>         > <mailto:cbudnick at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         >
>         >
>         >     This is one of the big problems that we've had with
>         talking to artists 
>         >     about licensing their existing and new material
>         liberally: so much of
>         >     the free stuff right now is bad electronica. I don't
>         know the history
>         >     of that project you linked to, but this is a problem
>         with a lot of the 
>         >     material on ccMixter, and it's the same problem with
>         most music, most
>         >     of it's bad, most of it's electronica (on the internet,
>         at least). I
>         >     agree with you that organization and discovery are
>         fungible, as are 
>         >     the tasks of convincing the best local and non-local
>         bands you know to
>         >     release their existing and new music to the commons.
>         >
>         >
>         > Yup, hopefully the FMA and OLPC Free Music project and Rrcd
>         Lbl will 
>         > change this, but I find it extremely difficult to find *any*
>         CC music
>         > that I actually really like. I'm also a big fan of
>         electronic music, so
>         > that says something. What I did find that was effective was
>         getting 
>         > artists who I knew to release music that I liked under CC
>         for the OLPC
>         > project (some of which is BY-SA), but it took a lot of
>         > convincing...(Seems like it's the easiest way to find CC
>         music that I 
>         > like though.)
>         >
>         > I may be missing some of the CC music scene, but whenever I
>         go to try to
>         > find CC music, I may find something that is halfway decent,
>         but my bar
>         > should be if I'd actually like it if it weren't CC. And I am
>         admittedly 
>         > picky, so that's a pretty high bar to pass.
>         
>         
>         I have to admit I'm in the same boat! I'm sure there's good
>         stuff out
>         there, but the search costs are just too high to sift the
>         wheat from the 
>         chaff (at least to my tastes). I've been just as successful
>         finding
>         music I like on obscure netlabels as through the big CC music
>         channels
>         like Jamendo, Magnatune, or ccMixter. Unfortunately, I think
>         we're still 
>         lacking when it comes to promotion, tastemakers and
>         recommendation
>         engines for CC music.
> 
> Or, try convincing musicians you like to try it out. Obviously this
> may not work for all musicians, but if you know people personally that
> make good music, it could actually work (especially if they're on
> smaller labels or no label at all). 
> 
> Let's face it -- most artists don't really want to have to deal with
> copyright, and we can't assume that they're automagically going to
> know or care about CC. But if we can present the ideas in an
> accessible way, a few might just catch on. 
> 
> IMO, the key to getting more good CC music is to get good quality
> artists to use it. That's part of the reason why I'm excited about
> Rcrd Lbl, and part of the reason why I hope Antenna Alliance continues
> to exist. 

I challenge any and all interested in making information to help guide
musicians, to help out here:

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Musicians

I also stubbed out a similar one with John Yi from http://dublit.com
last week: 

http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Writers

Nothing like putting down ideas and increasing the rate of achieving the
goal.

Jon


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>         Gavin Baker
>         http://www.gavinbaker.com/
>         gavin at gavinbaker.com
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