[cc-community] 10k great Free songs (was Re: Rcrd Lbl to offer CC and Free as in Beer Music)

drew Roberts zotz at 100jamz.com
Mon Nov 19 14:48:56 EST 2007


On Monday 19 November 2007 13:11:55 Fred Benenson wrote:
> On Nov 19, 2007 1:09 PM, Gavin Baker <gavin at gavinbaker.com> wrote:
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> > Elizabeth Stark wrote:
> > > On Nov 18, 2007 8:43 PM, Christopher Budnick <cbudnick at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:cbudnick at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >     This is one of the big problems that we've had with talking to
> >
> > artists
> >
> > >     about licensing their existing and new material liberally: so much
> >
> > of
> >
> > >     the free stuff right now is bad electronica. I don't know the
> >
> > history
> >
> > >     of that project you linked to, but this is a problem with a lot of
> >
> > the
> >
> > >     material on ccMixter, and it's the same problem with most music,
> >
> > most
> >
> > >     of it's bad, most of it's electronica (on the internet, at least).
> > > I agree with you that organization and discovery are fungible, as are
> > > the tasks of convincing the best local and non-local bands you know
> >
> > to
> >
> > >     release their existing and new music to the commons.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yup, hopefully the FMA and OLPC Free Music project and Rrcd Lbl will
> > > change this, but I find it extremely difficult to find *any* CC music
> > > that I actually really like. I'm also a big fan of electronic music, so
> > > that says something. What I did find that was effective was getting
> > > artists who I knew to release music that I liked under CC for the OLPC
> > > project (some of which is BY-SA), but it took a lot of
> > > convincing...(Seems like it's the easiest way to find CC music that I
> > > like though.)
> > >
> > > I may be missing some of the CC music scene, but whenever I go to try
> > > to find CC music, I may find something that is halfway decent, but my
> > > bar should be if I'd actually like it if it weren't CC. And I am
> > > admittedly picky, so that's a pretty high bar to pass.
> >
> > I have to admit I'm in the same boat! I'm sure there's good stuff out
> > there, but the search costs are just too high to sift the wheat from the
> > chaff (at least to my tastes). I've been just as successful finding
> > music I like on obscure netlabels as through the big CC music channels
> > like Jamendo, Magnatune, or ccMixter. Unfortunately, I think we're still
> > lacking when it comes to promotion, tastemakers and recommendation
> > engines for CC music.
>
> I find it ironic, not all that surprising, that we're now back exactly
> where this thread started: a label is releasing semi-mainstream music under
> Creative Commons.

For me at least, and I imagine there may be one or two others, music under 
Creative Commons is not that interesting, music under Free licenses is. So 
that means, music under Creative Commons BY and BY-SA.

And to be honest, even that is not really good enough. There needs to develop 
an ethos that wll see sources for such works made available under the same 
license.

In other words, GPL practices with respect to source materials even where the 
license does not require it. Because, although the license does not require 
it, ease of re-using and re-mixing does.
>
> If this isn't a step in the right direction, then I don't know what is.

What is would be doing so with BY or BY-SA licenses.
>
> F

all the best,

drew




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