[cc-community] Rcrd Lbl to offer CC and Free as in Beer Music

Marcus Estes marcus at wfmu.org
Sat Nov 17 12:37:23 EST 2007


>With the advent of the digital age, both musicians and authors have to
> go back to live performance for an income.

It's exactly this kind of "digital manifest destiny" that makes many
artists view the free culture movement with suspicion.

Artists depend on many income streams and removing even one would
cripple the economic viability of much of today's DIY music movement.
Ask any working band how they feel about giving up revenue from music
sales and they'll tell you that ticket and T-shirt sales alone won't
even pay the gas bill for most new indepdent bands.

Selling music (especially at merch tables) is one of the most vital
ways for a band to pay the bills and the fact that you've downloaded a
bit torrent client doesn't mean that they need to drastically change
their business model.

On 11/17/07, marcus estes <marcus.e at gmail.com> wrote:
> >With the advent of the digital age, both musicians and authors have to
> > go back to live performance for an income.
>
> It's exactly this kind of "digital manifest destiny" that makes many
> artists view the free culture movement with suspicion.
>
> Artists depend on many income streams and removing even one would
> cripple the economic viability of much of today's DIY music movement.
> Ask any working band how they feel about giving up revenue from music
> sales and they'll tell you that ticket and T-shirt sales alone won't
> even pay the gas bill for most new indepdent bands.
>
> Selling music (especially at merch tables) is one of the most vital
> ways for a band to pay the bills and the fact that you've downloaded a
> bit torrent client doesn't mean that they need to drastically change
> their business model.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/17/07, Terry Hancock <hancock at anansispaceworks.com> wrote:
> > jonathon wrote:
> > > Evan wrote:
> > >> Imagine a world where artists, writers and musicians aren't amply
> > >> compensated for their work.
> > >
> > > In the current world
> > [...]
> > >> Where creators live off welfare, or soul-deadening day jobs ....
> > >> Thank God we don't live in such a catastrophic dystopia!!
> > > We do.
> >
> > I think we can safely assume that Evan's comments were *meant* to be
> > ironic. :-)
> >
> > > Historically, creative people have always lived on the margins of
> > > society.
> >
> > Though true, this states the status quo, not an argument for maintaining
> > it -- a society that rewards creativity better would presumeably be more
> > productive.
> >
> > > J K Rowling was living on welfare checks whilst writing the first two
> > >  Harry Potter novels.
> >
> > But not the last two! :-)  JKR is a success story of the old copyright
> > system.
> >
> > > Vincent Von Gough was living off of his brother during his entire
> > > painting career.
> >
> > That, however, is not -- and is probably more typical.
> >
> > But just because our present (and past) system sucks, doesn't mean we
> > can't create a worse one.
> >
> > And if we go off half-cocked, talking about "encouraging altruism"
> > instead of thinking realistically about how to make such a system work,
> > then we're even likely to. "Failing to plan is planning to fail" and all
> > that.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Terry
> >
> > --
> > Terry Hancock (hancock at AnansiSpaceworks.com)
> > Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpaceworks.com
> >
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